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To: TobagoJack who wrote (65081)	7/2/2006 4:55:13 AM
From: Gib Bogle	Respond to of 110194

"China has dramatically upgraded emphasis on relationships with the Islamic nations" I wonder if it becomes significant that China has long experience with Islamic culture, through its own Islamic minority groups.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (65081)	7/2/2006 6:22:33 AM
From: GST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110194

<It is not as if the rest of the world will stop improving living standards just because some spendthrifts decides to commit financial suicide. > I agree with the entirety of your post. I have never seen America seem so utterly lost in the wilderness. China, with all its many deep-seated flaws, knows where it is going. India is gathering strength. We are wandering from the center of the world economy to the periphery. Others are inching towards center stage. I could never have imagined such a weak America -- I could never have imagined that we could so easily squander our wealth. People on this thread consider money supply and housing prices as central issues. Both are merely superficial symptoms of our inability to adjust to a new and much larger and more complex world of growth, scarcity and environmental damage. Resources are scarce and the environmental damage done by resource demand growth is real. But these issues are beyond what we seem willing to face and deal with. They will be faced by others, including China, and that will be to China's benefit. We on the other hand seem destined to ignore the real issues. This thread seems only able to grasp the superficial changes taking place -- rolling asset bubbles. But our cities are not unlivable because of interest rates or money supply. They are unlivable because of water and energy supply -- and that holds true especially for the entire southwest. I pity the poor fools who own houses so large that water shortages, electricty rates and the cost of commuting will make entire cities uninhabitable.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (65081)	7/2/2006 10:45:23 AM
From: shades	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110194

(1) China has dramatically upgraded emphasis on relationships with the Islamic nations, especially the ones with oil, There are those that learn from others mistakes - and those that must take a similar path and learn the hard way. Why follow the wests path? It's like those leaders over there in 1915 following abe lincoln and henrgy george - where is the innovative thinkers? (6) It will be all about oil, gas, pipe lines, down stream processing, support material processing, and consumer goods distribution You analysis is becoming stratfor like - you forget engineer scott - we got something that does trump black gold - glowing uranium - it's whats for dinner. Every nuke sub commander I know says its much better than the old oil/gas engines. Cheney and Mr. Burns going nuclear while the 3rd world gonna run pipelines for a resource we already sucked dry - HAHA! You lose again - day late - dollar short - better get focused on pebble bed nukes for 20 billion eh? (7) The blue print does not seem to make mention of axis of this or coalition of that, homeland of somewhere else, and certainly no words about crusades and such, all seems quite above board and friendly, and certainly nothing about killing innocents, maiming children and raping women, followed up by coverups and insincere trials You are talking about that woman and her religious group that heckled hu jintao at the white house right? I agree Chen - the inhumanities I have read against those in china by chinese is atrocious. Concerning the conspiracy theory that the US trying to encourage China collapse via higher oil price, I fear USD 100/barrel may not be enough ;0) No one I knows believes that - we are too busy looking to the future to worry about who is following in our shoes. It is not as if the rest of the world will stop improving living standards just because some spendthrifts decides to commit financial suicide. I mean, after all, who needs unhealthy growth? Agreed, a few tree huggers are not going to stop the NUCLEAR age. You ever seen a tree hugger stop a nuclear sub? hehe Did I forget to mention as a part of above item (5) that "money will go where money is welcomed ... a simple truth"? Money? My tank guarding the mine pit that digs uranium costs how much to buy off? P.s. recommendation, buy gold. All its isotopes have a very short halflife - b I can't run my computer with it like I can with a nukular plant - gold not good for energy like that eh? Radioactive materials have more use eh? What will you need more of to play deathmatch? nukular energy or gold that cant be made radioactive even if we tried?

To: TobagoJack who wrote (65081)	7/2/2006 1:08:03 PM
From: russwinter	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 110194

In any case, the certain housing collapse, whether due simply to high prices or complicatedly to drying of Japanese liquidity, will matter to leveraged high-cost housing owners in the first instance, and will at most have a second or even third order effect to the world at large.> Oh? If anything is high order it is your belief in the "cult of China." All I see is runaway corruption, pollution (experienced fist hand), and extreme overdependance on mercantilist exports to bankrupt nations issuing shaved Roman coins. China's been hoodwinked. At any rate what good is a higher standard of living if you're dead at 43, see photos? xanga.com And oh, while we're at polluting their water and air, let's just remove all health care for about half the population. news.bbc.co.uk I will leave the cult of China nonsense to others.