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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (190761)7/3/2006 3:15:30 PM
From: neolib  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
We know that carbon has risen in the past 100 years. That is not the question. But many factors have changed during that period, not just the burning of fossil fuels. Number of humans/animals on the planet, forest cover, etc, have also changed radically. So the extent of the influence of burning fossil fuels, as opposed to these other factor, is questionable.

And the function of the higher co2 levels is also questionable, as the reaction with the chief greenhouse gas, water vapor, is still under debate.


So could you provide a model for these alternate theories? Do they comprehensively fit the data, or do they simply raise plausible sounding objections so that those who wish to doubt might feel more comfortable in their ignorance? A casual look at creation/evolution in the USA will provide all the insight one needs to understand such debates. Science is about understanding and fitting the mean, not the legal "beyond reasonable doubt" of your average jury. Many very intelligent people confuse the two. They have nothing in common.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (190761)7/3/2006 9:38:47 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Respond to of 281500
 
'So the extent of the influence of burning fossil fuels, as opposed to these other factor, is questionable."

No, it's not. Guess you missed this. It's our responsibility.

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"as the reaction with the chief greenhouse gas, water vapor, is still under debate."

Guess you forgot about this. Water gets taken into consideration. It is a follower, rather than forcer, of warming. It's been included in the models.
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