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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (11350)	7/4/2006 12:22:38 PM
From: sea_urchin	Respond to of 22250

Anything but negotiation Palestinian moderates are Israel's real enemies, so it deliberately drives them from the scene Patrick Seale Monday July 3, 2006 The Guardian By using vastly disproportionate force against Gaza, Israel has once again demonstrated its contempt for international law and its indifference to human suffering. America's blind support may give Israel immunity in the short term, but the longer-term consequences of such irresponsible behaviour can only be dire. Arab and Muslim loathing for the Jewish state - and its US ally - will inevitably be cranked up with everything this implies for the security of Israelis and Americans everywhere. There will always be Palestinians and others who will seek revenge, in one form or another, including a resort to terrorism. Political pressures on Israel to end its occupation of Palestinian territories, even from the spineless Europeans, will steadily increase. Alarmed at US inaction, Britain and France are already working quietly on a project to define their own parameters for resolving the conflict. They will not endorse the unilateral annexations Israel's prime minister, Ehud Olmert, has in mind. When he travels abroad, Israel's chief of staff, Dan Halutz, may find that he has joined the list of Israeli generals wanted for war crimes. Why have Olmert and Amir Peretz, his hapless defence minister, gone down this road to nowhere? Some observers have suggested that they may want to show that they are as good at killing Arabs as their predecessors because, unlike previous Israeli leaders, they lack any significant military experience. But this can be only part of the story. It would seem that there are two broad reasons for Israel's destructive rampage in Gaza. Neither reason has much to do with the young Franco-Israeli corporal, Gilad Shalit, captured during a cross-border operation by Palestinian guerrillas against an Israeli military post. One reason for Israel's assault is military. Israel has been desperate to put an end to the homemade rockets launched from northern Gaza at the Israeli town of Sderot, which lies a kilometre from the Gaza strip in the north-west Negev desert. Sderot is Peretz's home town. These rockets have so far not killed anyone but they are a very considerable irritant. The city's municipality is up in arms at the state's inability to offer adequate protection. In response to the rockets, Israeli shelling and air strikes have in recent months killed some 50 Palestinians, including several children, and wounded more than 200. But beyond the rockets themselves is the wider issue of Israel's deterrent capability. Nothing inflames Israel more than any dent in this capability. This past week the US has, as usual, repeated its mantra that "Israel has the right to defend itself". The implicit corollary is that no one else has such a right. Israel's second reason for striking at Gaza is political. It is seeking to destroy the Hamas government by all possible means - including physical liquidation - because it knows that Hamas's terms for a settlement would be stiffer than it could possibly accept. It abhors the recent Hamas-Fatah accord, which implicitly recognises Israel, because it threatens to produce a Palestinian partner ready to negotiate the creation of a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders. Israel has no intention of ever returning to those borders. It is no accident that its assault followed immediately on the Palestinian accord. Israel will do everything to avoid a negotiation. Hence, it deliberately inflicts inhumane hardships on the Palestinians in order to radicalise them and drive the moderates from the scene. Moderates, who are prepared to talk, are Israel's real enemies.

To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (11350)	7/5/2006 2:54:56 PM
From: Elmer Flugum	Respond to of 22250

The Zionists (not necessarily Jews) have learned their lessons well from those they claim to castigate for crimes during WW II against homosexuals, Gypsies (Roma), the mental and physically handicapped, Catholics, and Jews....THE NAZIS! len

To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (11350)	7/5/2006 3:26:28 PM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 22250

Crimson > Why does the world community allow the illegal Israeli aggression against the helpless people of Gaza to continue? I'm not sure who the "world community is"? For a start, however, we know that the US is dominated by Zionists of every variety so we know what to expect. Europe is more problematic and it seems to me there are two reasons (a) racism, and (b) apprehension that if the state of Israel should collapse, or be otherwise dysfunctional, the Jews could return en masse particularly to the country of the Holocaust. > The comments of Weisglass and Netanyahu suggest a sinister strategy is lurking in the wings. The Israeli policy is quite straightforward and is no different from that which has been in evidence since the 1940s or even the 1930s -- get rid of the Arabs. Kill them, starve them, frighten them, intimidate them, drive them crazy -- anything, just as long as they are being gotten rid of to make room for the Chosen People.

To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (11350)	7/6/2006 12:32:27 PM
From: Machaon	Respond to of 22250

===>"In this morning's BBC program there was absolutely no discussion of the 9,000 Palestinian prisoners languishing in Israeli jails ... <===" What a joke! The prisoners, in Israel's jails, have a better quality of life than the Palestinians in Gaza. The deranged Palestinian leaders treat their people much worse than the Jews treat the Arab prisoners. In fact, many of those Palestinian prisoners prefer staying in a Jewish jail, rather than suffering under the cruel, sadistic, mindless Arab leadership in Gaza. ===>"George W. Bush has indicated a willingness to accept settlements on the West Bank," Boyle said."<=== Most of the Arab settlements in the West Bank are illegal. Most of the Arabs of the West Bank, and Gaza, for that matter, are illegal immigrants from Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Saudi, etc. Most Arabs, aka Palestinians, have no right or claim to land in the West Bank. Israel made a huge mistake by not driving ALL Arabs back to their own countries, and leaving both the West Bank, and Gaza for the Jewish state.