To: Elroy who wrote (190958 ) 7/5/2006 1:01:21 PM From: Nadine Carroll Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500 The moment Israel said "this is land for our ethnic group and not for your ethnic group, even though you have been here for centuries" they have argued that all men are not created equal, rather the children of Jewish mothers are entitled to more than the children of non-Jewish mothers. Anytime you try to have an ethnic state you have to do this to some extent. The question is, how do you treat minorities, a question not confined to Israel. Israel made the Arab minority full citizens. Attempts to do more, to found the Benelux-type 'new middle east' envisioned by Shimon Perez etc, have all foundered not on Israel's bad will, but on the nature of the Arab regimes, which refused to accept a compromise, deliberately plunged their own people into misery so they could scapegoat the Jews for it. Then they present their 'moral' case as victims to people like you - you have to accept the destruction of Israel, what are we going to do about the displaced Arabs? Give me an f---ing break. You would think the Arabs of Palestine were the only people ever got displaced in the 20th century, instead of 650,000 out of 100 million. After the creation of Israel and the invasion and subsequent defeat of 5 Arab armies, 650,000 Arabs became refugees. During the same period, 800,000 Jews became refugees as the Arab states threw out their Jews. The Jews became citizens of Israel. The Arabs became Palestinian refugees in permanent refugee "camps", generation unto generation, without citizenship anywhere except Jordan. To cap off the genius of this scheme, the Arab countries got the UN to pay for these perpetual refugees through a separate UN agency that promised never to try to resettle them, unlike the way all the other refugees of the world get handled. My answer to this problem is to tell the Arabs to grow up and join the modern world. Yours is to give in to the blackmail. I like mine better.