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To: Moominoid who wrote (65494)	7/7/2006 11:49:38 AM
From: John Vosilla	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110194

Are there stats that show the recent low skill immigrants vote much less than the high skilled immigrants? Does that even really matter any way in the presidential election since CA is going to vote blue and TX will vote red? GWB astounds me talking about the war on terror one moment and then showing almost no concern about protecting our borders from terrorists. Pandering to the Mexican vote no doubt.. More grass votes movement in the black community because of this? The studies show as a group they are the most effected.

To: Moominoid who wrote (65494)	7/7/2006 6:06:25 PM
From: shades	Respond to of 110194

More important to pander to higher skill higher income people and block immigration of their competitors and keep services performed by illegals cheap. All the doctors here keep telling my father how unethical it is to go to India and get a kidney transplant. I asked one of them to walk his shoes - you are gonna die in the USA waiting on a kidney list 91K people long or can go to india and with 7K US dollars have a new chance at a decent life - you are gonna spout ethics to me. Its a racket - they charge 10 times more for a procedure and the kidney doctor is pissed at me for telling several of his patients in the dialysis clinic how cheaply they can go to India for. He keeps saying NO NO NO - this is unethical - we can't have free markets in body parts - etc etc. One of those docs just took a month long trip to europe - if he loses his 15K a month dialysis patients I bet those trips won't be as often - hehe. Your taxes pay for the medical care MOO - do you want to pay too much?