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To: Lane3 who wrote (23605)	7/11/2006 11:06:28 AM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541559

But you know how easily folks on SI get outraged. They get outraged over someone saying "insurgent" rather than "terrorist" But you don't experience, support, or encourage that outrage, or say that if people don't get outraged over one alternate term to terrorist that its unreasonable that they must be illogical or ignorant if they get outraged over another. On this issue you seem to be saying if someone gets outraged over A, but doesn't make the effort to figure out and get outraged over similar situations B or C, that they are ignorant or illogical. Which is why in my last post I said - "If you did more about Bosnia than you did about Rwanda; if you care more about breast cancer than lung cancer or AIDS than heart disease; if you are/were more horrified by the Holocaust than the deaths caused by communism; you aren't necessarily ignorant or illogical." Where is your statements calling the people you have an intense dislike of Nazis but don't give much thought to communists ignorant or illogical? Where are your statements against AIDS activists who don't seem to put any effort in to dealing with, or raising awareness of other diseases? If I was to apply the same reasoning you have applied to those who care about fetal stem cell research but not in-vitro fertilization, than I would be calling you ignorant or illogical. Not that I think you are, but do you understand the point? In effect your presenting getting outraged over someone saying "insurgent" rather than "terrorist" as the accepted norm. You fund that outrage in one area and don't find the same sort of outrage in a totally different area, and this strikes you are wrong. I don't think that argument makes sense if you don't find the outrage to be very reasonable in the first place, and I don't think you do find it reasonable. I've never know you to be one to effectively demand that people take their logic to the most extreme conclusions, to take a simple idea and apply it everywhere, when either the situations might have some difference, or there might be tactical reasons to deal with one at a time, or even if their lack of outrage about some other similar areas is just an oversight, where they fail to see the similarities. I don't think for example, if you respected (whether or not you agreed with) someones support for a military intervention for humanitarian reasons in one country, you would call them ignorant or illogical if they didn't than turn around and support a humanitarian intervention when people are dying in another country. Re: "But that they don't come down hard on fertility practices is harder to put aside and I now struggle to maintain that tenuous respect. I'm on the verge of hanging it up." Message 22603466 I certainly find it surprising that you are struggling to even maintain a tenuous respect for their (probably misguided in your opinion) attempt to defend what they see as the interests of someone other then themselves. Edit - Also see nightlight.org