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To: Lane3 who wrote (23917)	7/13/2006 10:22:05 AM
From: Dale Baker	Respond to of 541299

Agreed 100%. If we let them go, it would be easy to spread the word they had all cooperated with the US under interrogation and make them useless as future fighters or terrorists, since no one would trust them. Holding them for the sake of holding them contributes heavily to an opinion I have heard a lot outside the US the last few years, which is that we have lost our perspective and our collective sense of reason when it comes to dealing with the terrorist threat.

To: Lane3 who wrote (23917)	7/13/2006 12:25:55 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541299

Holding prisoners indefinitely without a trial is something that really pisses off human rights activists and human rights lawyers. If you don't "get" why, maybe you can just accept it as a fact which mystifies you. And human rights activists and human rights lawyers are very vocal people, who tend to get attention from people in government in civil societies because they have similar points of view. Also journalists, college professors, scholars, poets, the type of people you should want on your side if you're in charge of a civil society, a democracy that takes people's opinions into account. The Guantanamo prisoner's right to habeas corpus hearing to establish their status was awarded two years ago, Hamdi, in 2004. The Hamdan ruling, last month, was that the type of procedure being used in these hearings since the Hamdi case was unconstitutional. (Also some other things, I still am digesting it.) So, just take it as a given, the administration can drag their feet but they lost this one. If you want a feel for how this plays among civil rights types, brush up on Korematsu. Our very own Smithsonian has a big exhibit on Korematsu that promises "never again." Ha.