To: steve harris who wrote (294643 ) 7/13/2006 7:31:29 PM From: SilentZ Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 1573763 >You know very well Ted's statement was tongue-in-cheek, yet you keep bringing it up. Great post on the topic by a Jewish blogger:Was Creating the State of Israel the Jews’ Worst Strategic Mistake Ever? So often on the subject of the State of Israel, the debate is framed by moral questions. This preferred focus is based on the axiom – both in left and right Zionist camps – that a Jewish state is tenable. Maybe it just isn’t. It is useful to empathize with the enemy. The enemy – activist fundamentalist Islam – is not the majority of Muslim people. But it doesn’t need to be. Most Germans were not Nazis. Most Russians were not communists. It simply doesn’t need to be most. Especially now, when you don’t need a state to wage a war. Though having a few backing you certainly doesn’t hurt. If I were a fundamentalist Muslim, I would do the basic math. I would figure that there are 1.2 billion Muslims, and 14 million Jews. That if I went one for one, at the end of the day, there would be zero Jews, and 1.2 billion Muslims. And though I would try to do better than one to one, I would be willing to sacrifice one hundred for one. The only thing that would restrain me would be my concern to retain the ability to fight another day. Martyrs hardly hinder that possibility. Not with their odds and recruitment methods. I do not see a happy ending here. Not with a tough and expansive policy, not with a smaller Israel. For the fundamentalists, there is little reason to cut a permanent deal. They have 1.2 billion people to draw support from. With many states, of which many of those offer varying levels of support, even if minimal and peripheral. Their hand grows stronger. Ours grows weaker. Terrorism is to fanatics and nations what the gun was for petite men versus strong men: a great equalizer. For those seeking to inflict their will upon them. At least our believers have their faith to rely on when considering the future of Israel. Our tradition promises us that Jerusalem will not fall a third time. Or does it? The Talmud warned us of our oath not to take back the land by force. That if we did, that “our flesh will be made free like wild animals in the field.” Good thing halacha can change and evolve, due to the excessive oppression of the nations of the world, the U.N. vote, etc. For we have the power to reinterpret Jewish law, and to declare this oath null and void. Unless we’re wrong. Unless we don’t. Then we may have a very big problem.jewschool.com