To: mishedlo who wrote (53367 ) 7/16/2006 11:42:19 PM From: Alias Shrugged Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555 Mike Based upon the pension footnotes in the 2005 annual report, the funded status of the plans is: Projected Benefit Obligation $89.1 billion Market Value of Plan Assets 95.2 billion Funded Status 6.1 billion Ok, so their assets exceed the liability by $6.1 billion. But the pension asset recognized on their books (the "Net Amount Recognized) is $36.3 billion, or $30.2 billion more than the surplus assets. So, if they terminated the plans and somehow settled their benefit obligations for $89.1 billion (assume they could get an insurance company to provide annuities for all the benefits owed for the $89.1 billion), they would have $6.1 billion in cash remaining, BUT would need to write down the Net Amount Recognized by $30.2 billion. In other words they would need to take a hit for the 30 billion. Their Net Amount Recognized (NAR) has grown so large because the amounts contributed to the plan, especially the $18.6 billion they contributed in 2003, have exceeded the annual pension expense. [The NAR at the end of the year equals the NAR at the beginning of the year, plus employer contributions, minus pension expense. Over the past 6 years, contributions have exceeded expense by $21.6 billion] So, a large prepaid pension asset develops over time and is shown on their books. So, why does the Funded Status show a "surplus" of $6.1 billion while the Companies books show an asset of $36.3 billion? It is because primarily (1) the assets over the past 8 years have grown $11.1 less than expected, (2) the liabilities have over the past 8 years have grown $13.9 billion more than expected, and (3) they increased benefits plan benefits by $7.9 billion, especially in 1999 and 2003. Part of the unexpected growth in the liabilities comes from the need to use a lower discounting rate thanks to the low interest rates prevailing over the past 3,4 5 years. Everything that GM has done regarding pensions is legit and according to the FASB pronouncements. Overall, their pension asset sitting on their books is overstated by $30 billion right now, and I don't know how they will earn 9% on their assets going forward. A while back Mike Burke said that a 6% annual return over the long run is a reasonable assumption. If they were to change the assumption from 9% to 6%, their 2005 Pension Expense would not have been $1.446 billion, but $4.079 or $2.633 billion more. So, in asking if GM is bankrupt, change that $36.3 billion pension asset on their books to $6.1, and then do the rest of the analysis. Mike Schiavo