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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (191639)	7/13/2006 11:19:28 PM
From: GST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Iraq invaded Kuwait and Iraq was expelled by the UN -- not by the US. The UN did not authorize the invasion of Iraq then nor did it do so later -- it only authorized the expulsion of Iraq from Kuwait. Saddam and Bush did the same thing -- they both invaded countries that had not attacked them. I don't think the world should be run by lying political scum who think they can invade any country they want, kill anybody they want and who can freely run a network of secret prisons where people can be imprisoned without any charges against them, where prisoners have no rights and where they can be tortured at will. We have been dishonored and shamed by the actions of our President.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (191639)	7/14/2006 12:46:28 AM
From: geode00	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

"The United Nations Charter is a treaty of the United States, and as such forms part of the "supreme law of the land" under the Constitution, Article VI, Clause 2. The UN Charter is the highest treaty in the world, superseding states’ conflicting obligations under any other international agreement. (Art. 103, UN Charter) Under the UN Charter, there are only two circumstances in which the use of force is permissible: 1. in collective or individual self-defense against an actual or imminent armed attack; 2. and when the Security Council has directed or authorized use of force to maintain or restore international peace and security. Neither of those circumstances now exist. Absent one of them, U.S. use of force against Iraq is unlawful." lcnp.org ---------------- " This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any state to the Contrary notwithstanding." caselaw.lp.findlaw.com ---------------- Hence all of the lying about 45 minutes to mushroom clouds, aluminum tubes and uranium from Niger....and hence the Plame lawsuit against Scooter, Karl and Dick.