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To: GST who wrote (191673)	7/14/2006 6:40:17 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Clinton had intel -- and he did not invade Iraq. He sure as hell bombed the hell out of them during Operation Desert Fox. But he never pushed the UNSC to declare Iraq in material breach of the cease-fire after he kicked out the inspectors. He just didn't have the political capital left to get an authorization to use for out of the Congress.. And apparently he was too busy cozying up to the French to push such a resolution. Had Al Gore been elected, it's quite likely Saddam would still be in power, under siege from the ever increasing influence of Takfirist Islamic militants within his Sunni support network. Hawk

To: GST who wrote (191673)	7/14/2006 6:55:30 PM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

It's amazing how the rightwing blames everyone else but oil man Bush for the spike in oil prices. It's amazing how they ignore that oil services company executive Cheney held secret energy meetings. It's amazing how they ignore the maps that showed the administration cutting up Iraq's oil fields for ExxonMobil et al. It's amazing how they ignore the chaos in Iraq that drives up oil prices or the posturing against Iran that does the same. It's amazing how they can't figure out how Saudi Arabia, previously running into serious financial and economic trouble, is bailed out by the huge spike in prices. We're about 5% or so from meeting, in real terms, the oil shock prices of the 70s. Still US consumers have yet to find price elasticity. I guess we'll have to get to the $100/bbl before that happens...this will make Cheney and Bush very happy and their cronies very, very, very rich.