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To: GST who wrote (191791)	7/16/2006 4:05:46 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<<just as Saddam abused his power. We lowered ourselves to his level. Then we just kept sinking lower and lower, with secret prisons, kidnapping, wrongful imprisonment and torture -- >> The war with Saddam, this is part of the war on terror.

To: GST who wrote (191791)	7/16/2006 4:27:02 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

No even close -- the UN had every right to repel the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait -- it is illegal for one country to invade another. Hey.. what was Saddam in Material Breach of in the first place??? A cease-fire, y'idiot!!! UNSC 687, which was the UNSC sponsored CEASE-FIRE derived from UNSC 678, UPON WHICH DESERT STORM WAS AUTHORIZED. Now get this through your dense skull... You can't have a cease-fire without having a war. Desert Storm was THAT WAR... And as you correctly stated, it was authorized by the UNSC via it's binding resolutions. The cease-fire was specified in UNSC 687, which required Saddam to disarm. And failure to do so would result in a MATERIAL BREACH of that cease-fire... And that's where UNSC 1441, UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED AND AFFIRMED by the UNSC, that Saddam was in material breach of the cease-fire obligations. Once the cease-fire is null and void, the situation defaults back to where it legally was under UNSC 678. Bush NEVER had to go back to the UNSC for another resolution, let alone 1441. He had ALL THE AUTHORITY HE NEEDED UNDER THE CHARTER TO ENFORCE THE TERMS OF THAT CEASE-FIRE. But both Bush and Powell pushed him to go back to the UN and he did so.. in order to request another resolution that left NO DOUBT that Saddam was in material breach of the cease fire that "severe consequences" would result (purposely leaving out the nature of what those severe consequences would actually be). Pretty clear.. And quite legal under the terms of the UN Charter, despite what the corrupt and criminal Kofi Annan might claim. Hawk