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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (192005)7/18/2006 1:46:32 PM
From: Keith Feral  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hamas is being supported by all their Sunni allies. Makes sense that Saudi Arabia is the main supporter of Hamas. Iran is also extensively supporting Hamas. Makes less sense that the Shiites in Iran are supporting the Sunnis in Palestine, but they will do anything to support terrorism.

Hezbelloh is being supported as a Shiite organization by a Sunni Baathist leader in Syria. Glad we got rid of whatshisname in Iraq, you know the other Baathist ringleader. WTF was his name? <g> Meanwhile, the Iranian Shiites are supporting the Sunni Syrian support for the Shiite Hezbelloh group in S Lebanon. I find it fucked up that the Syrian Sunni Baathists send over a bunch of Hezbelloh Shiites into S Lebanon to antagonize a bunch of Lebanese Shiites. Maybe they were just a bunch of puppets sent by Iran's Shiites through their Syrian Sunni allies.

All I know is that Bin Laden dropped the Twin Towers and the Pentagon and his group of terrorists have been on a global killing rampage eve since. Shiites, Sunnis, Palestinians, Arabs, Persians, Baathists, Hamas, Hezbelloh, Al Quaeda, Taliban - what a list of interchangeable identities. I guess alot of people still think that Iraq was never a terrorist state, and that Bush is to blame for the Muslim bombings in India last week. Spin, fud, & propoganda is not making any friends with the terrorists.



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (192005)7/19/2006 1:31:48 AM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hi Hawkmoon; Re: "It's only one division that WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT.. It should not be construed that other divisions have not been called up."

This is 2006. It's just not possible for Israel to call up, say, 10 divisions without it being all over the news. I think the whole thing blows over in 2 weeks or so. The Israelis are hinting as much. They'll declare victory over Hezbollah, ignore any remaining rockets, swap prisoners, then get ready to start the whole thing over again.

I see a lot of support in Israel for the actions of the Israeli air force, but I haven't seen any great drive to send boys over the border.

Here's a recent article from Haaretz, with my commentary in brackets:

The Israel Defense Forces estimate that 10-14 more days are necessary in order to meet the military aims of the operation in Lebanon. [Not like you can wipe out Hezbollah in that sort of time period, by invasion or by air. Instead, what you can hope is that they run out of rockets. Uh, hope is not a plan.] According to General Staff estimates, it is possible to greatly intensify the scope of the attacks against the Hezbollah rockets, with special emphasis on their longer-range weapons, as well as strikes against senior members of the group's operational arm. [In other words, get some better intelligence, probably by risking assets.] A senior military source said on Tuesday that Israel seeks "to significantly weaken Hezbollah but not crush it." He said that "it is impossible to crush a popular, religious movement." [This is basically my point exactly.] Some IDF ground troops crossed into southern Lebanon on Wednesday to carry out attacks on Hezbollah guerrilla outposts. "These are restricted, pinpoint attacks," an IDF spokesman said. "This is not out of the ordinary. This has been happening close to the border." [In other words, they're doing more of the same, crossing the border, small units, maybe take a prisoner or two. Oh, wasn't it just this sort of pinpoint attack that Israel used as a justification for starting this? Another case of who hit who back, first.] The army has not ruled out the possibility of a major land offensive at some stage. [I think that this is an idle threat.] He added that that "over the course of the last 24 hours, very successful attacks have continued, especially those of the air force but also other units, by land and by sea, in Lebanon." [Why should Israel invade if they can have a victory the easy way? Just declare it. They're already "very successful".] "Until now, over 1,000 terrorist targets have been attacked, including 180 Katyusha and long-range rocket launch sites," Eisencott said. [Ah, the numbers game. Another alternative to actually fighting Hezbollah toe to toe.] A day's fighting in the north is estimated to cost more than NIS 50 million. Peretz instructed the IDF to enable as many factories as possible along the northern border to reopen so that damage to the economy can be minimized. [This isn't the hard Israel of 1967. This is the easy going Israel of 2006 that just wants to make a buck (shekel). The economy is more important than safety. Heck, as I've been telling you, keeping the economy healthy is the most important thing for Israel as with a lousy economy, they lose the demographic battle that much faster. Israel needs immigrants and immigrants don't want to move to places where the economy sucks.] The Home Front Command will decide which factories have the necessary reinforcement to protect workers from possible rocket strikes.
haaretz.com

-- Carl