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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (192252)	7/20/2006 11:15:13 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 281500

I would be interested in your take on the Israeli Lebanon situation. Most of the anti-bush, sioux nation folks seem to hate israel as much as they hate bush. They have twisted the facts to their own liking and now like some japanese say the US started WW2 with Hiroshima, the israelis started this war. No mention of the cross border assault, just a discussion on unilateral israel attack on lebanon. I know bush screwed up big time in iraq. I also believe that it didnt have to go to hell in a handbasket. Israel may have fucked up here big time for a variety of reasons but the hypocrites here who dispute a nations right to defend themselves still should be taken to the woodshed.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (192252)	7/20/2006 11:50:48 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

This guy woke me up (First link). I first heard about PO in '72. Other than becoming a hippie organic farmer (totally legal, which is why it didn't work, totally certified organic), didn't do much else until he went to work on Willits by showing End of Suburbia about 50 people, and it just exploded. And more power to you.. So long as whatever you do is not dependent upon long-term subsidization by the taxpayers in order to compete against the private market. The only REAL solution to energy dependency is a market based solution. I believe the profit based motive to innovation of any kind is the most efficient solution to any given economic problem. This is why I was so exicited to hear about Nanosolar's photovoltaic breakthrough.. If we're able to bring down the cost of solar power to the point where its competitive with fossil fuel generation, then what we'll create is the equivalent of an "energy internet" with no centralized point of failure from a generation location. So many homes will incorporate the solar technology into their home designs that it will drive down the price of electricity (probably to the point where this solar technology is once again cost-inefficient compared to future costs of generation), and this will be a BOON to economic growth. Combine that with the ability of people to power their own hydrogen generation capabilities, and they can produce their own vehicle fuel. It's still a long way off, but that's the vision I think I would like to see transpire. Hawk