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To: geode00 who wrote (192273)	7/20/2006 1:04:49 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

When have I been consistenty critical of Israel's aspirations for Palestinian statehood? What exactly are Israel's aspirations for the Palestinians? From what I see, Israelis are interested in themselves, in building a wall and ignoring the Palestinians' aspirations. Maybe I'm just confusing you with your ideological soulmates, Sly and Neol (and a few others).. Face it.. the rancor you guys all spew on this thread makes it hard to differentiate who is saying what because you all sound the same.. ;0) Such is human nature. It's also human nature to try and get your relatives and friends out of custody and to wish to get your home and property back. Yep.. kind of like why the Jews wanted to get the heck out of Europe (the ones who were left alive, that is) and back to their historical homeland, Israel. A land which was stolen from them by Romans, Christians, and later Arabs. I mean, just how far do you want to go back with regard to establishing territorial claims? More recently, the entire region, including Israel was ruled by the Ottoman Empire. Only after WWII was the empire carved up by the Brits and French along arbitrary lines and arbitrary Arabs government put in control. Jewish immigration was only permitted along the lines that the any land they obtained had to be purchased from the Arab tenants (who had dubious, if any, legal title to the land in the first place since it had all previously belonged to the Ottoman Sultan). Right-o after they were incited to rebel by Poppy Bush who then allowed Saddam to send up armed helicopters but refused to let the US troops intervene in the ensuing massacre. Those mass graves dug up by Baby Bush are the result of his Daddy's utter lack of sense and humanity. Isn't this the VERY SAME result you're promoting by insisting that American forces leave Iraq and let them wage their civil war without foreign interference? Is that humanitarian? "If these various ethnicities were more focused upon evenly dividing the wealth derived from these natural resources, they would have far more incentive to remain together.." YOU ARE A CLOSET COMMIE! Hardly, unless you consider Alaskans to be communist. I have LONG PROMOTED the concept of an Iraqi equivalent to the Alaskan Permanent Fund, in which all established residents of Alaska receive an annual dividend. In fact, if you go back through my posts on this threat to March, 2003, prior to the war, I discussed the importance of such a program. I call it "profit-sharing" which is hardly communist. The belief is based upon the natural resources of the country belonging to ALL OF ITS PEOPLE'S, and not just a single ethnic entity. Where a more stable and egalitarian government (such as ours) might be slightly trusted to fairly distribute the benefits of the country's economic resources (we do it via entitlements.. etc), it's pretty clear that Iraq and most other countries are not yet capable of preventing the pillaging of the nation's resources on behalf of one ethnic group or another. Thus, the only solution is a private market dividend solution by which the natural resources, or at least a significant part of them, are put at the economic disposal of the people themselves via profit-sharing and dividend payments. Hawk