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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (24576)7/20/2006 12:34:50 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541526
 
This is the foundation of Western Civilization.

Yeah, right, allowing yourself and your neighbors and relatives to be slaughtered is the epitome of civilization.



To: Mary Cluney who wrote (24576)7/20/2006 12:37:25 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 541526
 
"You should not commit murder"

"Thou shalt not Kill"

This is written in stone. This is the foundation of Western Civilization.


And a lot more people have been murdered since it was written then before.

In living memory hundreds of millions of people have been killed by fascist and communist regimes (counting the total for both, counting direct deaths as well as man made famines, and blaming WWII in Europe on the Nazis). We have moved away from that extreme (hopefully in a somewhat durable way but you can't count on it). Now you have terrorists, and regimes like North Korea and Iran seeking nuclear armed missiles, you have mass killings in Africa, not many years ago you had active "ethnic cleansing" in Europe. I think and hope that the 21st century will be less bloody than the 20th but it could wind up being worse. Even if its better it hardly seems like killing is on the way out.

We could do as you suggest:

It is okay to kill others under these circumstances:


"Thous shalt not kill" is better translated as "You should not commit murder". "You should not commit murder" is not the same as its wrong to kill under any circumstances.

The world as a whole doesn't accept the ten commandments, but even if it did it would not support the idea that no use of force, or even no use of deadly force is legitimate.