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To: Dave Budde who wrote (54776)7/20/2006 8:47:09 PM
From: Done, gone.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 213182
 
You may be missing a point.

We have entered the era where hardware makes it possible -- and expected -- to run more than one OS at the same time.

Over time, this will become a standard, across the board.

Apple has a head start -- one of the reasons the Intel Macs are selling like hotcakes.

Intel's virtualization is definitely not hurting Mac sales. It's helping them fly of the shelves: first to play the new game, again.

I'd say OS X may gain a lot of traction, just because of this.



To: Dave Budde who wrote (54776)7/20/2006 9:26:37 PM
From: Doren  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 213182
 
Linux/OSX synergy. Don't forget. Long slow but inevitable.

Linux for the poor and servers and 3RD world countries that are rapidly becoming 1st world countries.

Macs for the well heeled, bosses, developers and server admins.

Windows for the losers who don't know any better. Really there will be a point where companies who standardized on Windows will rue the day because they just won't be able to compete as well.



To: Dave Budde who wrote (54776)7/20/2006 9:33:41 PM
From: IHateSourCream  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 213182
 
>>But it's not a slam dunk that Apple will grow it's computer market share. If the stock does well, and I hope it does, it won't be from computer sales.<<

I don't have any data to officially debate you. All I can say is that I've always been a Windows/PC user. Never considered switching. That is....until now. I'm currently in the market for a new laptop. And now that I know I can run Windows on a Mac, I'm very seriously contemplating buying a Mac. Believe me, I never thought I'd say that! <g>

I use a number of software programs that require Windows, and the ability to run both operating systems simultaneously is extremely appealing to me. I suspect there are plenty of other folks just like me. Seems like a no brainer that Mac sales will increase (perhaps dramatically?) as a result of this change. Again...just my opinion.



To: Dave Budde who wrote (54776)7/21/2006 3:03:08 PM
From: inaflash  Respond to of 213182
 
What system(s) does your new MBP replace, a PC, Mac or both? And if the MBP didn't exist (and Macs didn't run Windows), what would have been your replacement systems(s)?

No, I'm your quintessential Mac user, though I am unfortunately well versed in Windows. The MBP replaced a Powermac G4. And it's convincing me to run Windows, not to run from it. This strategy will backfire. I bet it will convert more Mac users to Windows long term than the other way around.

If it didn't exist, I would have not replaced it until something better came along.

Don't get me wrong. I love Apple computers. I love OS X. I loath Windows. But it's not a slam dunk that Apple will grow it's computer market share. If the stock does well, and I hope it does, it won't be from computer sales

Thanks for answering your specific situation. I wanted to know if you were a Mac user who's switching to Windows or a Windows user switching to Mac or a dual user. I presume you use a Windows system elsewhere as well, but I'll throw you into the first category.

For the Mac users switching to Windows, you wind up minimally affecting Apple market share, since you stuck with Apple hardware. The real loss will come if Mac users head to HP and Dell hardware. In my view, many have already done so, and these new Intel Macs don't really change the equation.

The second group of Windows users switching to Mac do affect Apple market share to the positive. I believe the number of such users is more than most people are projecting. These users may be running OSX or Windows, but the fact they're running on Apple hardware is the significant change. Going from 6% to 12% market share this quarter is a great example, and I think they're going up from here.

Lastly the dual use group now owns at least one Mac and one Windows system. They'll either be so turned off by one or the other and abandon that system, or they'll go to a new unit that can run both OS, and again, we're talking Apple hardware.

I've been saying this ever since BootCamp came out, which is it doesn't matter what OS people run as long as it's on Apple hardware. In the mid range and high end, Apple hardware alone is quite compelling, and you get OSX thrown in for free.

macworld.com

It's a relatively older article, but you can find more recent comparisons. The point is that they're generally comparable and if you like the tradeoffs, it's something to consider, and I believe that it's showing up in the sales.