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To: michael97123 who wrote (192547)	7/21/2006 10:12:26 PM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

He doesn't have one michael....He's good with name calling, but little else. Here's the link I posted that disproves his original yarn... adloyada.typepad.com How to demonize Israel KEY UPDATE: Read Lisa's fully referenced account of the story here. In some recent comments on that post, she's now clarified that she thinks the press photographers did not create set-up photographs, but that the photographs were subsequently used in a manipulative way. OK, get the picture? It shows Israeli children at the northern border town of Kiryat Shmona gleefully scribbling target hate messages aimed at Hizbollah and the Lebanese on missiles destined for firing into Lebanon. The usually laid back and hate-resistant Egyptian blogger Sandmonkey featured it and some others at the same event, and wrote: Hey, Israel, losing the moral high ground quickly? Disgusting. Congratulations, you are no better than Hamas now. You have become what you hate. But Israeli blogger Lisa got the story behind the picture from the photographer who took the shot and confirmed it with another journalist who was present. This is an extract from the online conversation with Lisa about what she found, which the Sandmonkey posted kids were in bomb shelters for days. city is a ghost town. only poor people stayed a new army unit arrived, kids were bored, went out with parents to look there were TWELVE photographers there and they egged the kids on the kids are low class, not educated, have never met a Lebanese, just want to live their lives, don't understand why Lebanon attacked their home, etc. the photographers told them "hey, your cousins in america will see you!" mostly foreign photographers so the kids, who were bored and restless and had been cooped up in bomb shelters for 5 days, took the felt markers and drew messages to nasrallah there were no cries of hatred toward lebanese and a big problem is that the israeli tv does not show dead lebanese. it shows destroyed buildings, but not dead bodies. so no one has a face of the dead in their minds. too aware of our own suffering, etc. make sense? Fantastic that she got the story. And terrific that Sandmonkey has posted this explanation and provided a link to it from the original angry post. And by the way, I certainly don't feel that it's necessary to see pictures of dead bodies, or the faces of the dead to be able to appreciate the suffering of the Lebanese. In fact I share the view of Shutterfool that posting horror pictures of the dead, whether Lebanese or Israeli is disgusting, But of course this picture and its companions will have gone round the world, with hundreds rushing to echo the Sandmonkey's disgust and comments that it demonstrated that the Israelis were no better than Hamas. How many will now come to see that this particular piece of demonization of Israelis was originated not by Hezbollah and Hamas. It seems that the photographer was with AP. They've got form. But though it originated with AP it was others who then manipulated it: Links to anti-Israel websites with that photo placed prominently next to the image of a dead Lebanese child have been sent to me several times. Someone has been rushing around the Israeli blogosphere, leaving the link to one particularly abhorrent site in the comments boxes UPDATE: Lisa's comment below appears to modify the story substantially from her account in her earlier online conversation which I extracted verbatim, as published on Sandmonkey's log. It seems the parents, and not the photographers, were encouraging the children to draw flags and doodles on the shells, not messages, which were written by the parents . But, as she says, the presence of twelve photographers all eager to take shots, no doubt contributed significantly to the fact that it happened. It's puzzling though, that the girls are adding to messages actually written by their parents in English. The comments are apparently addressed to Nasrallah, the Lebanese leader of Hezbollah, and regular threatener of death to Israel, rather than to the Lebanese people. I find it difficult to imagine the conversations between the parents and the children about writing messages to Nasrallah in English. And how did the twelve photographers get to be there in the first place? Was it parents or photographers who made the encouraging remarks about "your cousins in America will see you?" Why were the children allowed to get near the shells anyway? Does the IDF have some responsibility there? Posted on July 18, 2006 \| Permalink