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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: American Spirit who wrote (78199)7/21/2006 7:25:02 PM
From: TimFRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
Our military does not have anywhere near the amount of boots on the ground to take on additional conflicts anywhere in the world.

If we had to we could put as many in another location as we could in Iraq. We would have to have a big reason because it would be a strain, and we would have to change the way we deploy troops, but it could be done. Whether it could be sustained for years is another issue but the soldiers could be deployed.

None of which means I'm supporting a war with Iran. I see the reasons why you consider it "absurd, reckless and self-defeating", even if I wouldn't go quite that far. It certainly would be risky and costly and difficult, if by war you mean full scale invasion. And bombers might not be able to do the job (depending on exactly how you define the job) because a lot of Iran's nuclear facilities are hidden, and there is some indication that some of them may be build under civilian housing or hospitals (although I have no idea if those claims are at all solid). If we were convinced that bombing through a hospital would be BOTH necessary and sufficent to keep Iran from having a nuclear bomb, and esp. if we were convinced that they would nuke Israel if we didn't keep them from getting a bomb, than the bombing would be both practically and morally justified but its really something you don't want to do.

As for "Its a dismal failure" "No its not", "Yes it is", arguments I'm really starting to get bored by them so I'll pass this time and just argue more specific ideas.

But I will say that - "we are fighting an unjust war against a country that never attacked us" is a highly questionable statement.



To: American Spirit who wrote (78199)7/22/2006 12:57:21 AM
From: ChinuSFORead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
All this proves Bush's foreign policy is a dismal failure. It was a neocon fantasy or a black and white world where we can do anything we want.

There was a political discussion on one of the TV talk show yesterday. The one who had a conservative view indicated that Bush is moving away from his neocon buddies. I presume over the next two years he would want to build his legacy and he has realized that in order to do so he has to move away from his neocon circles and their failed policies.