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To: see clearly now who wrote (24753)	7/22/2006 8:10:54 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 540978

We don't need Bill Clinton to find out what Bin Laden wants. It's not about us, it's about the Arab world. Bin Laden's mentor tried to foment revolution in the Arab world (in Egypt) and failed miserably. Bin Laden and his fellows are failures in their own lands, and hoped by bringing terrorism to the West to generate the kind of "revolution" they could not generate by working in their own countries. Even with the West abetting them I don't see it happening- though I have to admit that the US is working overtime at the moment on the side of AQ and every other malcontent group in the Arab world. Mr. Bush could not have designed a better plan to help extremists than the invasion of Iraq, and his bizarre attitude toward Israel's destruction of Lebanon. Bin Laden (and his fellows) may have been pretty ineffectual in terms of radicalizing the Arab world- but Mr. Bush is much better at it.

To: see clearly now who wrote (24753)	7/22/2006 10:49:02 AM
From: KonKilo	Respond to of 540978

The snide tone of your posts regarding establishing a dialogue with "the terrorists" is indicative of just how fully developed their demonization has become. As we gradually realize the futility of trying to kill our way out of this situation, you will see more and more calls to do just what I have proposed. Yes, we will still have to kill or incarcerate a certain portion of them, but I am certain we can find a way to coexist with the majority that might otherwise resort to terrorist acts. But it starts with trying to understand what we are up against, which I have seen precious little of, so far.