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To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (9969)7/24/2006 1:40:34 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 37545
 
Well Darren, I thought the whole thing was rather surreal actually...

Considering Hezbollah crazies denying Israel's right to exist.
Hezbollah running a state withing a state, education, health care... really independent of Lebanon with it's own military...Here we have trouble hiding handguns.. They stockpile 13000 rockets..
The US and Brittain ... two major powers that bear much responsibility for the whole mess cavalierly invade Iraq the paper tiger.. and ignore the bigger problem...
The other Arab nations leave the Palestinians to fester...
Israel actually playing right into Hezbollah's hand.. A buffer zone solves nothing...
Thousands of folks in the crossfire think Hezbollah are heroes since no one else helps them...
Regimes in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Yemen.. do not help... but tacitly abet the problem..

and some folks are wondering if the attaqcks should be labeled war crimes... that is a great contribution ...

while everyone just beating each other over the head ....

Al



To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (9969)7/24/2006 8:48:10 AM
From: Ichy Smith  Respond to of 37545
 
Tell me something Alladin, since when do muslim terrorists give a crap about war crimes or Human Rights Watch?

When it is someone violating the rights of a Muslim.....

I have an Idea. How about Israel withdraws back behind the blue line, and every time a missile is launched by Hezbollah, Israel fires a missile or drops bombs into downtown Beirut. So if hezbollah fires no missiles for a day, Beirut has a day of peace, but if Hezbollah fires a hundred missiles a day, Beirut is in flames...... Also they should move the prisoners to the streets of Haifa so that when the missiles filled with ball bearings come, it will be the prisoners left out on the streets that are killed.



To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (9969)7/24/2006 10:32:02 AM
From: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 37545
 
Does anyone wish to offer an opinion on this?

Mounties want to delay review of man's death
RCMP quashes group's complaint over fatal shooting involving officer
SHANNON KARI

theglobeandmail.com

From Monday's Globe and Mail

VANCOUVER — The RCMP is attempting to delay a review by its civilian oversight agency into its conduct in the death of Ian Bush, who was shot during a scuffle by a Mountie in October in the Northern British Columbia community of Houston.

The national police force sent a letter to the B.C. Civil Liberties Association last week saying its complaint into the shooting of the 22-year-old mill worker has been terminated.

The civil liberties group filed a complaint with the RCMP last fall, as it does after any death in the custody or at the hands of the RCMP. Mr. Bush was shot at the local RCMP detachment after he was detained for having an open beer in public.

Unsatisfied with the force's response, the civil liberties group requested a review of the shooting by the Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP.

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The RCMP letter, which was written by the head of its internal affairs unit in B.C., cites a section of the RCMP Act as authority to quash a complaint.

"Further investigation is not necessary or reasonably practicable at this time," said the letter, which noted that the RCMP criminal investigation has been reviewed by the New Westminster police.

"The complaint has been terminated, because there is an ongoing process that is not yet complete," said Corporal Tom Seaman, a spokesman for the RCMP.

Cpl. Seaman said the B.C. Civil Liberties Association may file a new complaint once the criminal investigation process is over.

The findings of the police investigation were turned over to the Crown more than a month ago to determine if any criminal charges will be laid. A spokesman for Crown counsel in B.C. said Friday it was still reviewing the file.

The Bush family says it has been told virtually nothing by the RCMP about what happened the night of Oct. 29, other than that there was a scuffle at the station between Mr. Bush and Constable Paul Koester, the arresting officer. Minutes later, Mr. Bush lay dead with a bullet in the back of his head.

Jason Gratl, president of the civil liberties group, said this was the first time in any of its complaints that the RCMP Act has been invoked to shut down the process. He said the group does not believe the RCMP has the authority to delay the complaints commission from conducting its review and said this would not interfere with the criminal process.

"There are elaborate procedural protections," for every RCMP officer, Mr. Gratl said. He said the chairman of the complaints commission can make recommendations or call a public hearing, but has no disciplinary authority.

The attempt to terminate the complaint "begs the question, what do they want to hide," Mr. Gratl added. He accused the RCMP in B.C. of using stalling tactics in cases where someone has been shot by police or has died in custody.

The RCMP led the investigation into the death of 16-year-old Kyle Tait, who was a passenger in a stolen car when he was shot and killed by Constable Todd Sweet of the New Westminster police last August. The RCMP investigation of the officer's conduct in the shooting of Mr. Tait was not forwarded to the Crown until last month and it is still reviewing the file. Constable Sweet, who has been a defendant in four lawsuits alleging excessive force, two of which are ongoing and two of which were settled out of court, is on administrative duties. They include the training of police recruits at the Justice Institute of B.C.

The lengthy period to investigate and then determine whether there should be charges in these cases also delays a mandatory coroner's inquest.

The B.C. Coroner's Service confirmed Friday that it will hold an inquest in January into the death of Kevin St. Arnaud, who was shot to death in December 2004 during a police chase by an RCMP officer in Vanderhoof.

The Crown announced in February, 14 months after the shooting, that no charges would be filed. The RCMP complaints commission is reviewing the conduct of the police force in that case.

"Ideally, we would hold an inquest within 12 months of the death occurring," said Jeff Dolan, the assistant deputy chief coroner of B.C.