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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (192840)7/24/2006 3:20:50 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Why should the vote of the majority to exterminate the minority be more valid for countries than for individuals?

Lots of countries cease to exist without any extermination going on. You don't exterminate countries; rather, the people residing their change the system of governance. In determining what system of governance is acceptable for 506 million people, the vote of 500 million generally outweighs the vote of 6 million (if there is a vote). That's not that hard to understand.

And I'm not claiming the Arabs want the equal system of governance that makes sense to me to bring peace to the region. However, as you said, the deal breaker was the right of return, which essentially says that the Pals can live in BOTH Israel as well as the occuppied territories. They never express it as such, but it sounds like they want the right to live wherever they choose in the land that was transformed from a multi-ethnic region into a Jewish region by Israel. Ideally, that sounds like a reasonable solution to the problem to me.

In reality, of course it's not going to happen since as soon as they move in, the Israelis will probably end up with guerillas in their midst rather than on their doorstep.

I have not yet given up all hope that the Arabs will someday abandon their "dream palace", as Fouad Ajami calls it, and join the modern world. But pretending that they have already done so will not make it so - and is very dangerous.

I agree completely. If Israel were to willy nilly grant citizenship rights to Pals, there would only be greater destruction. However, it's not unimaginable that Israel embark on a 20-30 year well explained integration plan which would open Israeli society and citizenship to the Pal refugees as equals. Instead, they are building a wall which serves the opposite purpose. It's their choice, they will can bear the fruit or suffering of the choice.