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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (192842)7/24/2006 3:33:49 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
A more realistic real world comparison might be to Taiwan vs main land China.

There too, the Chinese are constrained from taking over Taiwan yet they do not accept it.


I agree that one is a better analogy in some ways, but Taiwan being an island and the Taiwanese (as individuals) being basically indentical to the Chinese in most ways (just the wrong political party) make it pretty different. In Taiwan-China its a political governance separation. In Israel-Pal-ME its an individual ethnic/religious separation. All systems of governance are not created equal, so I don't find the Taiwanese separation from China morally wrong. I believe all people are created equal (or at least governments should recognize them as such), so I have problems with the Israeli laws which segregate people based on the mother's Jewishness (or lack thereof). And I think its natural for all the non-Jewish members of that region (all 500 million of them) to also oppose those laws.

The closest analogy for Americans that I can think of that places the American in the Arab's position is the communist secession from the US. It's not perfect, but it is an example of a group that was once completely tolerated in American borders, which became an enemy as it became an individual power, and which would never be accepted inside of American soil by Americans. It's not perfect analogy, but it's the best that I can think of to help Americans see the Arabs as (I think) they see themselves.

BUT the difference with the Arab countries is that China has not held its own development for the last 50 years hostage to the "great, central mainland-Taiwan crisis" the way Arabs have done regarding Israel. They have basically told their population to give up on economic development or political liberalization and concentrate only on Israel/Palestine.

Sure, we could spend a few years criticizing Arabs. Why bother, who is going to defend them?