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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (192924)7/24/2006 12:12:29 PM
From: neolib  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Excellent Nadine! This statement clearly shows that you understand the emotional roots of war:

That is true - the Arabs, who seem to be running largely on wounded pride, found losing to those they had been used to despising intolerable. As Bernard Lewis says, losing to the great colonial powers was bad enough. But a gang of contemptible Jews? unbearable!

Unfortunately this statement is very depressing to me:

However, my argument is that you are dealing w/ith "wipe them off the map" hatred, your days of compromise are over. The choices are now fight or run. Attempts to appease such hatred only makes things worse.

since your basically don't think you can solve anything.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (192924)7/24/2006 12:28:14 PM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"The choices are now fight or run. Attempts to appease such hatred only makes things worse."

In other conflcts there does come a time when sentiments shift. Sadat gaining some street creds in the 73 war was able to fly to jerusalem and make peace. Drive them into the sea needs to be replaced by some sense of pride combined with realism on the arab side. On the Israeli side there is an almost racist view that has developed for good reasons that the arabs are incapable of making peace or compromise. Thats something the israelis must lose. Whether either side can get to another place where mutual distrust can be replaced by grudging respect is indeed a long shot but its a road that at minimum must not be given up on. Otherwise some day we will have nukes going off there and thats not a world any of us wants to live in. If you feel this is all psychobabble, then i guess the only alternatvie is for israel to crush hizbollah completely by any means necessary. This is something the israelis have not yet chosen to do.