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To: skinowski who wrote (193165)7/26/2006 1:09:42 AM
From: bentway  Respond to of 281500
 
"And in Europe, did they breed 10 new nazis for every one they killed?"

This is an apples and oranges comparison. Hezbollah doesn't have the support of ALL of Lebanon, not even a majority, but for every innocent Lebanese civilian the Israelis kill, how many friends, family and just outraged Lebanese is impelled to join Hezbollah? That's the point. We LOSE the "hearts and minds" killing an inordinate number of non-combatants, as Israel is doing right now.

What's hard to understand about that?



To: skinowski who wrote (193165)7/26/2006 3:10:48 AM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hi skinowski; Re: "What did Allies do with kamikaze pilots during WWII? And in Europe, did they breed 10 new nazis for every one they killed? How much sense does this make?"

WW2 was a war. You can recognize "war" by the numbers of people that are killed. We killed about 3,000,000 Germans, something like 5% of the population. Our whole population was mobilized. A very high percentage of our high school graduating classes were drafted into military service, trained as soldiers, and sent to war. This went on all over the world among the primary warring nations. This total devotion of the nation's resources to the military was how we won the war. Of course their side did the same thing, but we were considerably larger, so over the course of several years, we wore them down. By the end of the war, the civilian populations in the enemy nations were so sick of fighting that they had no spirit to fight our occupation troops.

What is going on now is not a war. If this were a war, there would be a lot more than 500 dead. On the scale of things, this barely counts as a bad day at a UK soccer match, or a fireworks accident on the 4th of July, not a "war". Neither the Lebanese nor the Israelis have activated their reserves. The other participants haven't activated theirs, either. The only indiscriminate bombing has been by Hezbollah, an organization so small that it is said to number only 5000.

-- Carl