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To: epicure who wrote (9735)7/28/2006 8:30:46 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 14758
 
A Mean Spirit

Posted by Mark Noonan
Blogs for Bush

Paul Wellstone dies, and they turn his funeral into a political rally. President Bush attends Corretta Scott King's funeral, and he's insulted by other speakers. American troops make a mistake, and they call it a war crime; the enemy cuts a captive's head off, and they hardly even mention it. President Bush works hand and glove with liberals - to the dismay of his conservative supporters - on campaing finance reform, education reform and Medicare reform, and they still say President Bush is poisoning the partsan atmosphere. Prime Minister Allawi is denigrated as a Bush puppet; Prime Minister Maliki is denigrated for not being a Bush puppet. The Administration points out that a critic is lying, they demand the President be impeached over it. We want to give water to a dying women, they demand she die of thirst.

There is, in our leftwing critics, a mean streak a mile wide - a shrieking, unreasoning, pigheaded meaness which prevents meaningful debate most of the time. In posts where I have honored my late uncle and Matt has asked for prayers for his girlfriend, lefties attempted to post nasty insults - and not just to me and Matt, but to those we are writing about.

I know, I know - some of our conservatives can also get a bit nasty - but never, in my experience, has the right ever had such a large number of relentlessly mean people as the left has today. This meaness is a double-edged sword. While it usefully makes it very easy to defeat the left at election time, it becomes an ongoing burden for those of us who have to put up with the meaness day in and day out - but put up with it we must, lest we all get driven off the stage just out of weariness with answering, for the 100th time, some silly, transparantly false but exceptionally hateful lie that a leftist has thrown about.

Still, it is to be hoped that those who come here to hate and pour out invective will find a cure and become reasonable - or go away until such time as they are willing to think about what they want to say.

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To: epicure who wrote (9735)7/28/2006 8:31:16 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 14758
 
Keeping Things Civil

Posted by Matt
Blogs for Bush

I'd like to expand upon Mark's post yesterday about the "meanness" of liberals... particularly the ones that come on this site and express themselves.

While I've never had a problem with diverse opinions being expressed here, over the course of several months, I've gotten several complaints from regular visitors who are fed up with the blatant disrespect and negativity of liberal commenters (or trolls) contribute absolutely nothing of value to the discussion/debate within the comment threads. Multiple points of view are fine, and I'm glad to see so much discussion happening here. But it's becoming clear that there are a few people who have no interest in actual debate, and choose to dumb the discussion down to "I hate Bush," "you dumb neocons," and sometime more vulgar attacks that are simply not welcome here.

Mark and I have have been quite patient and forgiving recently, but as both of us have jobs, often our lack of time to moderate comments results in things being published that probably shouldn't have been.

As a result, the comment policy will soon be rewritten, and efforts will be made to have it strictly enforced. This is not about censoring different views, this is about maintaining respect and decency in the comment threads. So, from this point on, we are demanding that people make an honest effort to keep the discussion/debate here civil and decent. This weekend (starting today), a moderator will be monitoring the discussion in the comment threads, and those who are determined to be deliberately ignoring this plea will be dealt with appropriately.

This is not something we like to do. There are plenty of commenters (both left and right) who do contribute to the debate in a respectable way. There are some, however who do not... and they will be dealt with appropriately.

I hope people think about this, and change their behavior accordingly if this applies to them (and I know they know who they are) and we can keep the discussion going with a new civil tone.

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To: epicure who wrote (9735)7/28/2006 8:37:25 AM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 14758
 
Heh! Heh! With leftists, it's like picking low hanging fruit. The outrageous stuff is everywhere. But I know, I know. Ann Coulter said....

The Dean Of Divisiveness

By Captain Ed on DeanWatch
Captain's Quarters

In this ever-changing, mixed-up world, thank goodness that we have the constant of Howard Dean's mouth. Easily one of the most hypocritical political figures in the past generation, Dean decided to lecture America on "divisiveness". Of course, he blamed Republicans for it, within hours of comparing one GOP candidate to a mass-murdering dictator and calling a visiting dignitary anti-Semitic:


<<< Down with divisiveness was the message Wednesday delivered by Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean as he told a group of Florida business leaders that Republican policies of deceit and finger-pointing are tearing American apart. >>>


Great modeling for that anti-divisiveness campaign, Howie.


<<< The Republican agenda "is flag-burning and same-sex marriage and God knows what else," Dean said. "We need real change in this country. We're in trouble." >>>


And that would be .... less divisive? Actually, Dean was just cooling down from earlier statements, where he compared Katherine Harris to ... Joseph Stalin. He also called visiting Iraqi PM Nouri al-Maliki an anti-Semite:


<<< Democrat leader Howard Dean called the Iraqi prime minister an "anti-Semite" during an address before party loyalists on Wednesday, drawing a swift rebuke from Republicans. The Democratic National Committee chairman also called Republican Senate candidate Katherine Harris a "crook" and compared her to Stalin. ...

"Thank God for Bill Nelson, because we'd have another crook in the United States Senate if it weren't for him. He is going to beat the pants off Katherine Harris," Dean said during his 20-minute address. "She doesn't understand that it's…improper to be chairman of a campaign and count the votes at the same time. This is not Russia and she is not Stalin." >>>


Recall, please, that the Dean of Divisiveness once defended the presumption of innocence for Osama bin Laden in relation to the 9/11 attacks, a presumption he didn't bother granting Tom DeLay. Dean also called the Republicans the "white Christian party", and famously revealed that he hates Republicans, "and everything they stand for".

Dean doesn't want to abandon divisiveness; he's raised it to an art form, and it's the only tool in his arsenal.

UPDATE: I forgot to give The Florida Masochist a hat-tip on the Harris link. Sorry, Bill!
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To: epicure who wrote (9735)7/29/2006 4:27:37 AM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 14758
 
Sigh! Here's another moonbat leftist to denounce. Sheesh! Will the madness never end?

Abusing kids for "art"

By Michelle Malkin
July 28, 2006 11:56 AM

This is unbelievably sick. A left-wing photographer, Jill Greenberg, deliberately makes toddlers cry and turns the pictures into a Los Angeles art exhibit called "End Times" to indulge her Bush Derangement Syndrome. She slaps titles like "Grand Old Party," "Four More Years," and "Apocalypse Now" onto photos of the poor children she manipulated and goaded.

The Guardian covers the exhibit here with links to the children's photos and reports how Greenberg deliberately provoked the children to tears:


<<< When photographer Jill Greenberg decided to take a lollipop away from a small child, she had a broader purpose in mind.

"The first little boy I shot, Liam, suddenly became hysterically upset," the Los Angeles-based photographer said. "It reminded me of helplessness and anger I feel about our current political and social situation."

As the 27 two- and three-year-olds featured in her exhibition, End Times, cried and screamed, demanding the return of the lollipop given to them just moments before, Greenberg snapped away. >>>

Someone at YouTube has posted the gallery as well:

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PopPhoto magazine has an interview with Greenberg, who used her own daughter in the exhibit as well, and speaks of the merits of children vs. monkeys as photo subjects:

<<< When Jill Greenberg conceived the idea of photographing crying children back in 2004, she didn't anticipate the attention the project would bring to her fledgling art career, or the furor it would raise. Greenberg, who lives in Los Angeles with her husband and two children, is already known as one of the country's most success commercial photographers, with work for ad clients like Microsoft, Kraft, and Procter & Gamble and magazines like New York and Time. She has emerged as a potent force in fine art with a series of acutely lit portraits of monkeys and apes, which in turn led to her work with children.

Q: Your images have certainly caused an uproar. What do you say to people who call you a child abuser?

A: I think they're insane...Maybe getting kids to cry isn't the nicest thing to do, but I'm not causing anyone permanent psychological damage.

Q: How many kids did you shoot altogether?

A: Around 35. Some were the children of friends, plus my own daughter; others came from the Ford or Jet Set model agencies. Kid models aren't very expensive—not as expensive as monkeys, for example.

Q: The lighting is very dramatic. How did you accomplish that?

A: It's the same lighting I used for my portraits of monkeys, and I've been using it for some recent magazine cover portraits... >>>

Greenberg talks about the larger purpose of her "work:"

<<< I saw this little girl who'd come to a party with her mom, and she was beautiful, so I thought it might be interesting to photograph her. When they came to my studio, the mother brought along her toddler son, and I decided to shoot him too. We took off his shirt because it was dirty. He started crying on his own, and I shot that, and when I got the contact sheets back I thought, "This could go with a caption, 'Four More Years,'" like he was appalled at George Bush's reelection...

...That was one of the things that interested me about the project—the strength and beauty of the images as images. I also thought they made a kind of political statement about the current state of anxiety a lot of people are in about the future of the country. Sometimes I just feel like crying about the way things are going. >>>


Other photographers are appalled at Greenberg's methods. See Thomas Hawk and Jeremiah McNichols (linked below). Read and listen carefully. Turns out her methods involved more than a quick provocation. The kids were stripped and she described how frustrating it was to have parents "step out of the studio for a couple minutes" in concerted attempts to make children cry who were not cooperating.

BoingBoing reported on Greenberg's attempts to harass and intimidate Hawk (link below). More details from Hawk are linked below. McNichols, who shares Greenberg's political views, condemns her corruption of art:


<<< Perhaps the greatest irony of the work is Greenberg's overlaying of a political message, one preaching compassion and intelligence at that, to a process that involved the willful manipulation of toddlers to break down their toddler-sized psyches and leave them in a pool of their own tears...
...I believe that the moral dimension of "End Times" cannot be ignored, and that an artist need not profit from societal objections to their work if those objections are sound and widely shared. I further believe that Jill Greenberg's work should not be viewed through the art-historical lens of edgy, contemporary art, but is instead a cultural hiccup that should be shelved with divisive cultural artifacts like black minstrelry, art involving the physical abuse of animals, and other works that reflect a sensibility so alien that it is better approached not as art, but as the fractured product of a diseased mind or a necrotic culture. >>>

Indeed, this woman makes Deb Frisch look like Mr. Rogers.

Someone should put together an art exhibit called "Unhinged Times." Here's a start (linked below).

And here's Greenberg appearing on cable TV last night:

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Reader Miki B. writes:

<<< Imagine the uproar if a "right wing" photographer used the same technique to illustrate what crybabies Mr Gore and Kerry are for having their lollipops snatched away. >>>

Reader Eric W.:

<<< Michelle, I think you’ve got Jill Greenberg all wrong. Her work is brilliant! What better way to describe how moonbats feel about “our current political and social situation” than by showing a bunch of toddlers having fits. And who doesn’t believe that a liberal would take candy from a baby if it’s for “the greater good”? Quite frankly, I appreciate Ms. Greenberg’s candor on the subject. >>>

Reader Steven S.:

<<< If that was a movie shoot and not a still shoot, it most certainly would be child abuse. A social worker from an accredited agency must be present at all movie shoots to protect children from such abuse, and you can bet her method would not be allowed. (You can check with any film board to check the specifics of this). Also, the famous (child) actor/director Jackie Cooper titled his autobiography, "Please Don't Shoot My Dog" because when he was a child actor, his uncle and the director wanted him to cry for a scene. So they took his dog from him, took him around the corner and they fired several shots as though they shot him to death. They came back and told him they killed his dog. He cried alright. After the scene, they gave him his dog back, but Jackie never forgave his uncle and never forget the trauma of that awful act, and still talks about it in almost every interview, even though it happened something like 75 years ago! But I guess it's okay as long as one suffers from BDS. (Bush Derangement Syndrome.) >>>

Speaking of Frischness, here's the latest on that.
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Jeff Goldstein needs help.
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