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To: NeuroInvestment who wrote (20666)7/28/2006 10:53:36 AM
From: nigel bates  Respond to of 52153
 
Makes sense - thanks.



To: NeuroInvestment who wrote (20666)7/28/2006 11:19:44 AM
From: Biomaven  Respond to of 52153
 
Harry,

Fibrogen's HIF-stabilizing small molecules may have a role to play here on the neuroprotective side as well, although of course this was not their original indication and they can likely improve their results if they focus on this actual indication. Still very early, though:

Abstract

Inhibition of HIF-Prolyl Hydroxylases with FG-4539 is Neuroprotective in a Mouse Model of Permanent Focal Ischemia

February 17, 2006
International Stroke Conference 2006 , Kissimmee, Florida
Presentation #427

Inhibition of HIF-Prolyl Hydroxylases with FG-4539 is Neuroprotective in a Mouse Model of Permanent Focal Ischemia. Ingrid Langsetmo, Christopher Jacob, Wen Bin Ho, Robert Stephenson, Oksana Sirenko, Parmjeet Sidhu, Lee Flippin, Todd Seeley, Steve Klaus, Al Lin, David Liu

FibroGen, Inc. 225 Gateway Blvd., South San Francisco, CA 94080.

Abstract: Stroke remains the third most common cause of death in the industrialized world behind heart disease and cancer. Current pharmacotherapy for stroke is severely limited and presents a major unmet medical need. FG-4539 is a novel HIF-prolyl hydroxylase inhibitor (PHI) that has been shown to stabilize HIF in vitro, protect against chemical ischemia in neuronal cell cultures and to increase expression of HIF responsive cytoprotective genes including erythropoietin in the brain after i.v. administration in mice. By analogy to hypoxic preconditioning, FG-4539 is neuroprotective when administered 6 or 24 hours prior to permanent middle cerebral artery occlusion in the mouse (pMCAO). To further examine the potential of FG-4539 as a neuroprotective agent for the treatment of stroke, the dose response and therapeutic window were evaluated in the pMCAO model. The right middle cerebral artery of male C57BL/6 mice was surgically exposed and coagulated by bipolar diathermy. Body temperature was maintained by use of a heating pad during and after surgery. Ischemic damage in the brain was assessed 24 hours after pMCAO by TTC staining. In a dose response study, animals that were administered FG-4539 at 6, 20 or 60mg/kg immediately after pMCAO demonstrated significant dose-dependent reductions in infarct volume (36-59%). In a time-course study designed to evaluate the therapeutic window, animals treated with 60 mg/kg of FG-4539 exhibited a significant reduction in infarct volume (55%) when FG-4539 was administered as late as 5 hours (longest time tested) after occlusion. These results show that FG-4539 and PHI can limit ischemic damage when given up to five hours after the ischemic insult and demonstrate proof of concept that cytoprotective PHI may be useful in the treatment of ischemic stroke.


Here's the accompanying PR:

Press Release
FibroGen Reports FG-4539, HIF-PH Inhibitor, Is Neuroprotective and Significantly Reduces Brain Tissue Damage in Preclinical Model of Ischemic Stroke

Kissimmee, Fla. – Feb. 17, 2006 - FibroGen, Inc., today announced that a single dose of FG-4539, its novel small molecule inhibitor of hypoxia-inducible factor (HIF) prolyl hydroxylase (PH) in development for the treatment of ischemic disease, was neuroprotective and significantly reduced brain tissue damage in a preclinical model of permanent ischemic stroke. The potency of FG-4539 and the window of therapeutic opportunity observed following permanent middle cerebral artery occlusion (pMCAO) compare favorably to results from this model reported for the most promising neuroprotective therapies currently in development. The data were presented today at the International Stroke Conference 2006 (Abstract # 427; abstract).

Approximately 15 million people worldwide suffer a stroke each year resulting in death or cognitive deficits. The majority of these are ischemic strokes caused by a blood clot that prevents blood flow to the brain, thereby depriving the brain of oxygen and nutrients. As a result, numerous pathological pathways are triggered and lead to the propagation of neuronal cell death from the initial site of ischemic damage.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has approved tissue plasminogen activator, or tPA, (i.e., Alteplase) to treat ischemic stroke. tPA is a thrombolytic drug that helps to restore blood flow to the brain by dissolving the blood clot that causes ischemic stroke. In practice, however, the treatment window for administration of tPA is limited to three hours after onset of stroke symptoms, and less than 5% of patients receive tPA. In addition, tPA does not address other pathological processes that cause neuronal cell death.

“FG-4539 is a potential first-in-class therapy targeting HIF biology that is designed to coordinately activate a spectrum of cytoprotective factors to maximize therapeutic benefit in an ischemic emergency, such as stroke,” said David Y. Liu, Ph.D., Vice President of Research at FibroGen. “The results demonstrate the ability of a single dose of FG-4539 to elevate local expression of neuroprotective genes and confer significant protection to healthy brain tissue following stroke. We believe FG-4539 could be an important component of current stroke therapy and has the potential to improve patient outcomes, especially for the vast majority of patients who do not receive tPA.”

HIF-mediated factors known to confer cytoprotection against ischemic injury include those that promote cell survival and prevent programmed cell death (anti-apoptotic factors), such as erythropoietin (EPO); anti-oxidant enzymes, such as heme-oxygenase-1 (HO-1), which decrease free radical damage and limit reperfusion injury; and vasodilatory factors, such as nitric oxide and adrenomedullin (ADM), which enhance tissue perfusion (blood flow).

“Over the past decade, FibroGen has amassed extensive data documenting profound therapeutic effects of prolyl hydroxylase inhibitors to confer anti-ischemic and cytoprotective benefits on infarcted or hypoxic tissues,” said Thomas B. Neff, Chief Executive Officer at FibroGen. “In addition to the demonstrated protective effects of FG-4539 on neuronal tissue, preclinical models using FG-4539 and other selectively targeted FibroGen HIF-PH inhibitors demonstrate the therapeutic benefit of these compounds in protecting tissues and maintaining organ function in relevant animal models of ischemia in the kidney and heart. These data establish compelling rationale for clinical studies in stroke, cardiovascular, and renal settings.”

Therapeutic Window for Neuroprotective Action

In the study reported today, animals receiving FG-4539 exhibited a significant reduction in mean infarct volume (brain tissue damage) with maximal neuroprotective effects still observed even when the drug was administered after occlusion (53% – 62% average reduction compared to control group). Delayed administration of HIF-PH inhibitors as late as five hours after permanent occlusion did not result in any loss of neuroprotection, which suggests that the therapeutic window using FG-4539 may extend beyond this period. This compares favorably to published data using other neuroprotective agents, such as NXY-0591 and recombinant EPO2,3,4. Studies in which FG-4539 will be administered later than five hours post-occlusion are now underway to determine optimal dosing regimens.

EPO and Non-EPO Effects Confer Neuroprotection Using FibroGen HIF Technology

In the case of FG-4539, the pharmacodynamic properties include both production of systemic endogenous EPO and local production of endogenous EPO in the brain. Previous preclinical studies have demonstrated that recombinant EPO confers significant protection of neuronal tissue in cerebral ischemia models, albeit with a limited therapeutic window when administered post-occlusion in the pMCAO model. In previous research conducted by FibroGen, FG-4539 was as effective as high doses of recombinant EPO (e.g., 5,000 U/kg, which is approximately 50 times the erythropoietic dose) in reducing infarct size when both were administered systemically. FG-4539 was more effective in reducing the concomitant symptom of brain edema. The observed neuroprotective effects of FG-4539 were evident at doses that induced much lower circulating endogenous EPO as compared to the levels associated with recombinant EPO doses employed. FG-4539 induces EPO and EPO receptor expression locally in the brain rather than relying on induction of systemic EPO, which may contribute to optimal neuroprotective efficacy.

The neuroprotective capacity of FG-4539 in the absence of systemic EPO induction is evidenced at the lowest dose employed in the studies (6 mg/kg), where little to no increase in circulating endogenous EPO was induced, which was as effective as higher doses in reducing infarct size. FibroGen has also demonstrated the neuroprotective capacity of HIF-PH inhibitors that are optimized for induction of multiple HIF-dependent neuroprotective genes independent of induction of systemic or neuronal EPO. In that regard, FG-4539 was one of a specially selected group of compounds that was optimized to coordinately upregulate a select array of cytoprotective genes to maximize efficacy against ischemic injury, such as that induced by ischemic stroke.

“Additional studies are underway to examine the impact of non-EPO cytoprotective factors induced by HIF-PH inhibitors in a stroke setting and to correlate reductions in infarct size with improvements in cognitive function in longer-term transient occlusion models,” said Dr. Liu. “We are also studying HIF-PH inhibitors for their ability to prevent ischemia reperfusion injury and to induce rapid, localized production of cytoprotective factors at the site of brain tissue damage, which may provide better protection than recombinant EPO administered systemically.”

Separate Study Published in Journal of Biological Chemistry

In a separate study focused on the preconditioning effects of HIF-PH inhibitors published in the December 16, 2005 issue of the Journal of Biological Chemistry (JBC), a FibroGen compound given 6 and 24 hours prior to the onset of stroke was demonstrated to be effective in a pMCAO model5. This work was done in collaboration between FibroGen and researchers at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center and Harvard Medical School and Burke-Cornell Medical Research Institute at Weill Medical College of Cornell University.

A large body of research indicates that hypoxic preconditioning can prepare healthy tissues to better tolerate an otherwise fatal ischemic injury, such as stroke. There is substantial evidence that the protective effects of preconditioning are mediated through HIF, which activates the body’s numerous emergency responses to hypoxic stress.

“The recent JBC study suggests that HIF-PH inhibitors could be neuroprotective agents in clinical situations where the imminent risk of ischemic or oxidative neuronal injury is high, such as for elective surgeries,” said Dr. Rajiv R. Ratan, MD, Ph.D., Executive Director of the Burke-Cornell Medical Research Institute, Burke Professor of Neurology and Neuroscience at Weill Medical College of Cornell University, and senior author of the study reported in JBC.

Commenting on the data reported by FibroGen at the International Stroke Conference, Dr. Ratan said: “The new data suggest that administration of HIF-PH inhibitors following occlusion, or even following reperfusion, may result in significant neuroprotection. This is important because robust neuroprotective conditioning after the onset of stroke symptoms may significantly increase access to therapy for patients who suffer a stroke.”

FibroGen HIF-PH Inhibitor Therapeutic Platform

FibroGen is focused on the discovery and development of small molecule inhibitors of HIF-PH for therapeutic benefit in multiple clinical settings in which insufficient oxygen, or hypoxia, contributes to acute and chronic disease and dysfunction of healthy tissue. Using distinct HIF-PH inhibitors with unique pharmacodynamic profiles, FibroGen seeks to selectively harness and direct specific HIF-mediated biological pathways as required in different tissues to address organ-specific pathophysiologies. The Company’s first two HIF-PH inhibitors in clinical development are FG-2216 and FG-4592, which are designed to selectively stimulate HIF-2 mediated erythropoiesis for the treatment of anemia.

As part of a separate therapeutic program, FG-4539 is the Company’s lead HIF-PH inhibitor in development for the treatment of ischemic disease and settings in which cytoprotection could provide therapeutic benefit. Numerous compounds with desirable pharmacodynamic profiles have been created by FibroGen chemists for use in the ischemia/cytoprotection programs. In the kidney, for example, administration of FG-4539 and other FibroGen HIF-PH inhibitors protected kidney function from ischemia reperfusion injury6,7 and nephrotoxic radiocontrast agents. In preclinical myocardial infarction studies employing coronary artery ligation, treatment with a HIF-PH inhibitor preserved heart function and improved survival rate8,9. These results were confirmed in studies using additional HIF-PH inhibitors10.

In other HIF-PH inhibitor programs, FibroGen is developing compounds to selectively activate certain HIF-mediated pathways for other therapeutic purposes, including tissue remodeling, neurogenesis, and vasculogenesis, and HIF-mediated aspects of metabolism for treating certain metabolic disorders, such as obesity.

References

1. Sydserff SG, Borelli AR, Green AR, Cross AJ. Effect of NXY-059 on infarct volume after transient or permanent middle cerebral artery occlusion in the rat; studies on dose, plasma concentration and therapeutic time window. Br J Pharmacol. 2002 Jan;135(1):103-12.
2. Sadamoto Y, Igase K, Sakanaka M, Sato K, Otsuka H, Sakaki S, Masuda S, Sasaki R. Erythropoietin Prevents Place Navigation Disability and Cortical Infarction in Rats with Permanent Occlusion of the Middle Cerebral Artery. Biochem Biophys Res Commun. 1998 Dec 9; 253(1):26-32.
3. Bernaudin et al. A Potential Role for Erythropoietin in Focal Permanent Ischemia in Mice. J Cereb Blood Flow Metab. 1999; 19:643-651
4. Brines ML, Ghezzi P, Keenan S, Agnello D, de Lanerolle NC, Cerami C, Itri LM, Cerami A. Erythropoietin crosses the blood-brain barrier to protect against experimental brain injury. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2000 Sep 12;97(19):10526-31.
5. Siddiq A, Ayoub IA, Chavez JC, Aminova L, Shah S, LaManna JC, Patton SM, Connor JR, Cherny RA, Volitakis I, Bush AI, Langsetmo I, Seeley T, Gunzler V, Ratan RR. Hypoxia-inducible factor prolyl 4-hydroxylase inhibition. A target for neuroprotection in the central nervous system. J Biol Chem. 2005 Dec 16; 280(50):41732-43.
6. Bernhardt WM, Campean V, Kany S, Jurgensen J, Weidemann A, Warnecke C, William C, Guenzler V, Frei U, Amann K, Wiesener M, Eckardt K. Preconditional Activation of HIF Ameliorates Ischemic Acute Renal Failure. Keystone Symposia: Hypoxia and Development, Physiology and Disease 2006 Abstract Book: 57 (Abstract #113).
7. G. Guo, A. Lin, V. Guenzler, D. Liu, S. Klaus, M. Arend, L. Flippin, C. Witschi, Q. Wang. Improvement of Kidney Function in a Rat Model of Renal Ischemia-Reperfusion Injury by Treatment with a Novel HIF Prolyl Hydroxylase Inhibitor. J Am Soc Nephrol. 2004 15:461A.
8. Nwogu JI, Bean M, Geenen DL, De A, Brenner M, Buttrick PM. Inhibition of Myocardial Fibrosis Improves Survival and Prevents Progression of Heart Failure After Myocardial Infarction (MI). 73rd American Heart Association Scientific Sessions 2000 (Abstract # 108610).
9. Philipp S, Schiche A, Pilz B, Jürgensen J, Eckart K, Pagel I, Langenickel T, Günzler V, Willenbrock R. Prolyl 4-Hydroxylase Inhibition Induced HIF and Improved Cardiac Function after Myocardial Infarction. 75th American Heart Association Scientific Sessions 2002 (Abstract # 115482).
10. Nwogu JI, Geenen D, Bean M, Brenner MC, Huang X, Buttrick PM. Inhibition of collagen synthesis with prolyl 4-hydroxylase inhibitor improves left ventricular function and alters the pattern of left ventricular dilatation after myocardial infarction. Circulation. 2001 Oct 30;104(18):2216-21.





To: NeuroInvestment who wrote (20666)7/28/2006 11:24:53 AM
From: Arthur Radley  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 52153
 
My surprise is that tPA was approved nearly 20 years ago and in the interim there has been little effort it seems from anyone addressing a better drug for this huge killer of so many. As you indicate...merely restoring blood flow isn't the answer if all the damage has been done to the patient.



To: NeuroInvestment who wrote (20666)7/28/2006 12:23:48 PM
From: dr.praveen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 52153
 
Stroke/Harry/Nigel/Peter/Cary n Board,

Thanks for your views n input on Paion. Reg Tpa I worked in ER for a while, the major drawback I encountered was the window time period of admin ~3 hrs. Only less than 15% of ischaemic stroke pts are qualified for it and I think this will be the major adv for Desmoteplase which is upto 9 hrs.I also like Desmoteplase being studied in Pulmonary embolism. Enecadin n Solulin are long shots for Paion and are worth nothing until they show efficacy in Phase 2 but would be an awesome combo for Paion if they work out. I agree finetuning thrombolytics is boring once the rx window is expanded and I am not much enthusiastic about them.

For eg:
vernalis.com
thrombogenics.com

I was interested in a private bio Axaron which has AX200 but I am unsure of it's mechanism since they give very few details.

I like NTII defibrinogenating agent MOA better than Paion's which is a plasminogen activator but lack of efficacy in the European trials coupled with the most imp SE Intra Cranial H'age puts me off. Now the modified reduced dose doesn't give me confidence either until I see some results.I couldn't see any evidence of it in the Paion's DEDAS study though there was significant ICH (sICH) in the dose finding DIAS study.

So I am waiting for Paion's P3 results next mid year. One of my friend says this might be the reason Renovis is getting the results quicker.

investorshub.com

DIAS Study:

The Desmoteplase in Acute Ischemic Stroke Trial (DIAS)
A Phase II MRI-Based 9-Hour Window Acute Stroke Thrombolysis Trial With Intravenous Desmoteplase
Werner Hacke, MD; Greg Albers, MD; Yasir Al-Rawi, MD; Julien Bogousslavsky, MD; Antonio Davalos, MD; Michael Eliasziw, PhD; Michael Fischer, PhD; Anthony Furlan, MD; Markku Kaste, MD; Kennedy R. Lees, MD; Mariola Soehngen, MD Steven Warach, MD for The DIAS Study Group

From the Department of Neurology (W.H.), University of Heidelberg, Heidelberg; PAION GmbH (Y.A.-R., M.S.), Aachen; ClinResearch GmbH (M.F.), Köln, Germany; Centre Hospitalier Universitaire Vaudois (J.B.), Department of Neurology, Lausanne, Switzerland; Hospital Universitari Dr Josep Trueta (A.D.), Girona, Spain; the University of Calgary (M.E.), Heritage Medical Research Building. Calgary, Alberta, Canada; Helsinki University Central Hospital (M.K.), Department of Clinical Neurosciences, Helsinki, Finland; Western Infirmary (K.R.L.), University Department, of Medicine & Therapeutics, Glasgow, United Kingdom; the Stanford Stroke Center (G.A), Palo Alto, Calif; the Cleveland Clinic Foundation (A.F.), Department of Neurology, Cleveland, Ohio; and the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (S.W.), Bethesda, Md.

Correspondence to Dr Werner Hacke, Department of Neurology, University of Heidelberg, Im Neuenheimer Feld 400, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany. E-mail werner_hacke@med.uni-heidelberg.de

Background and Purpose— Most acute ischemic stroke patients arrive after the 3-hour time window for recombinant tissue plasminogen activator (rtPA) administration. The Desmoteplase In Acute Ischemic Stroke trial (DIAS) was a dose-finding randomized trial designed to evaluate the safety and efficacy of intravenous desmoteplase, a highly fibrin-specific and nonneurotoxic thrombolytic agent, administered within 3 to 9 hours of ischemic stroke onset in patients with perfusion/diffusion mismatch on MRI.

Methods— DIAS was a placebo-controlled, double-blind, randomized, dose-finding phase II trial. Patients with National Institute of Health Stroke Scale (NIHSS) scores of 4 to 20 and MRI evidence of perfusion/diffusion mismatch were eligible. Of 104 patients, the first 47 (referred to as Part 1) were randomized to fixed doses of desmoteplase (25 mg, 37.5 mg, or 50 mg) or placebo. Because of an excessive rate of symptomatic intracranial hemorrhage (sICH), lower weight-adjusted doses escalating through 62.5 µg/kg, 90 µg/kg, and 125 µg/kg were subsequently investigated in 57 patients (referred to as Part 2). The safety endpoint was the rate of sICH. Efficacy endpoints were the rate of reperfusion on MRI after 4 to 8 hours and clinical outcome as assessed by NIHSS, modified Rankin scale, and Barthel Index at 90 days.

Results— Part 1 was terminated prematurely because of high rates of sICH with desmoteplase (26.7%). In Part 2, the sICH rate was 2.2%. No sICH occurred with placebo in either part. Reperfusion rates up to 71.4% (P=0.0012) were observed with desmoteplase (125 µg/kg) compared with 19.2% with placebo. Favorable 90-day clinical outcome was found in 22.2% of placebo-treated patients and between 13.3% (62.5 µg/kg; P=0.757) and 60.0% (125 µg/kg; P=0.0090) of desmoteplase-treated patients. Early reperfusion correlated favorably with clinical outcome (P=0.0028). Favorable outcome occurred in 52.5% of patients experiencing reperfusion versus 24.6% of patients without reperfusion.

Conclusions— Intravenous desmoteplase administered 3 to 9 hours after acute ischemic stroke in patients selected with perfusion/diffusion mismatch is associated with a higher rate of reperfusion and better clinical outcome compared with placebo. The sICH rate with desmoteplase was low, using doses up to 125 µg/kg.

DEDAS study:

Dose Escalation of Desmoteplase for Acute Ischemic Stroke (DEDAS). Evidence of Safety and Efficacy 3 to 9 Hours After Stroke Onset.
Anthony J Furlan, Dirk Eyding, Gregory W Albers, Yasir Al-Rawi, Kennedy R Lees, Howard A Rowley, Christian Sachara, Mariola Soehngen, Steven Warach, Werner Hacke
BACKGROUND AND PURPOSE: Desmoteplase is a novel plasminogen activator with favorable features in vitro compared with available agents. This study evaluated safety and efficacy of intravenous (IV) desmoteplase in patients with perfusion/diffusion mismatch on MRI 3 to 9 hours after onset of acute ischemic stroke. METHODS: DEDAS was a placebo-controlled, double-blind, randomized, dose-escalation study investigating doses of 90 microg/kg and 125 microg/kg desmoteplase. Eligibility criteria included baseline National Institute of Health Stroke Scale (NIHSS) scores of 4 to 20 and MRI evidence of perfusion/diffusion mismatch. The safety end point was the rate of symptomatic intracranial hemorrhage. Primary efficacy co-end points were MRI reperfusion 4 to 8 hours after treatment and good clinical outcome at 90 days. The primary analyses were intent-to-treat. Before unblinding, a target population, excluding patients violating specific MRI criteria, was defined. RESULTS: Thirty-seven patients were randomized and received treatment (intent-to-treat; placebo: n=8; 90 microg/kg: n=14; 125 microg/kg: n=15). No symptomatic intracranial hemorrhage occurred. Reperfusion was achieved in 37.5% (95% CI [8.5; 75.5]) of placebo patients, 18.2% (2.3; 51.8) of patients treated with 90 microg/kg desmoteplase, and 53.3% (26.6; 78.7) of patients treated with 125 microg/kg desmoteplase. Good clinical outcome at 90 days occurred in 25.0% (3.2; 65.1) treated with placebo, 28.6% (8.4; 58.1) treated with 90 microg/kg desmoteplase and 60.0% (32.3; 83.7) treated with 125 microg/kg desmoteplase. In the target population (n=25), the difference compared with placebo increased and was statistically significant for good clinical outcome with 125 microg/kg desmoteplase (P=0.022). CONCLUSIONS: Treatment with IV desmoteplase 3 to 9 hours after ischemic stroke onset appears safe. At a dose of 125 microg/kg desmoteplase appeared to improve clinical outcome, especially in patients fulfilling all MRI criteria. The results of DEDAS generally support the results of its predecessor study, Desmoteplase in Acute Ischemic Stroke (DIAS).

Regards,
Praveen



To: NeuroInvestment who wrote (20666)7/28/2006 6:24:45 PM
From: Miljenko Zuanic  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 52153
 
Harry,

NXY-059 MAY be a first-generation version of that?

Anti-oxidative neuro-protection?

The dose that AZN is using in SAINT is too high to indicate true protective mechanism (anti-oxidative???) that may lead to post-stroke recovery and benefit.

I didn’t found any reliable data to show what percentage of the circulating drug does reach brain area (it is di-sodium salt),
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

so, are there possibilities for other mechanisms or de-sulfonyation to PBN is one option …?

Yes, first PIII data indicate marginal benefit, but how will FDA react if there is no benefit in NIHSS analysis is main issue here, regardless of the AZN approach to problem? I didn’t follow field for years, so would like opinion from someone more familiar with current medicine.

Miljenko