To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (49668 ) 7/28/2006 4:21:16 PM From: tejek Respond to of 90947 Yeah. The poor and middle class are really a lot worse off in this country than they were a hundred years ago, aren't they, dumb***?" Yes, they are, o brilliant one. Then you should have no problem actually PROVING your baseless claim, should you? Well, DO IT! You must be older. You're getting confused. I already have proved it.....the onus was on you to disprove it and you failed miserably. I guess you take after your president in that regard. Pathetic!Ellison's adoptive mother die, and he dropped out of school. He enrolled at the University of Chicago the following fall, but dropped out after the first semester. his father was now convinced he would never make anything of himself, but Ellison had learned the rudiments of computer programming in Chicago and took this skill with him to Berkeley, California, arriving with just enough money for fast food and a few tanks of gas.achievement.org That's Larry Ellison. He's a billionaire now. Jerry was kind of Hollywood, even though he grew up in the South Side of Chicago, Illinois, raised by his paternal grandparents. He was once attacked and beaten by a street gang that left him so covered with blood that a priest was called in to administer the last rites, but Jerry recovered. Jerry Sanders, CEO of AMD, another billionaire. That's a couple from one small part of the country- -Silicon Valley. Millioaires are a dime a dozen here. Then down south there's Hollywood, also a good place for making turnng paupers rich. And this is ONE STATE. You were saying? I was saying they are myths. What made the myths very believable is that just as you did up above everyone could point to at least one person and say he or she did make it. But those exceptional people are just that......exceptions to the rule. There will always be an Ellison or Oprah, but the vast majority of people, class-wise, will die as they were born. And that means the rich are usually born rich. Sorry Charlie! You've been duped!Message 21626495 Message 22231801 observer.guardian.co.uk Message 22542610