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To: Dale Baker who wrote (25464)	7/29/2006 12:42:48 PM
From: KonKilo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542088

Funny how Lieberman gets their support for doing exactly that, defying his own party and reaching across the aisle on a major issue. Good point. Maybe its because when McCain reaches across the aisle it is for things that resonate deeply with Dems, like torture and when Liebermann does the same it is for issues that are anathema to Dems, such as support for the Iraq war. The Kiss from GWB also did Liebermann no favors, nor did his sitting on the GOP side of the aisle for the SOTU address nor his walking with them in that parade, nor his announcement that he would run as an independent if he loses the primary.

To: Dale Baker who wrote (25464)	7/29/2006 3:17:59 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542088

Funny how Lieberman gets their support for doing exactly that, defying his own party and reaching across the aisle on a major issue. Maybe the "principle" changes depending on whether a politician conforms to their POV? I take the "their" to be conservative Republicans. I guess, but really don't know, that it's a version of your version. Lieberman's clearly not part of the group but gets points for supporting them on some central causes; McCain is borderline part of the group but has made some very strong statements against social conservatives in the past. Despite his recent hand holding with them. I think the social consevatives feel so burned by the Rep party over the long haul that they are very wary, very wary. Reagan didn't give them what they wanted; GWB's father certainly didn't; GWB is only half heartedly doing so. Etc. One of the genuinely interesting senate races this fall is the Rep primary in Rhode Island for the seat now held by Lincoln Chafee. As I recall, the social conservatives have put up one of their own. And there is little doubt should that candidate win the Rep primary, the Dems will win the election. After all, it's Rhode Island. Have you been tempted to read John Dean's new book, Conservatives Without Conscience? amazon.com I skimmed it at Barnes and Nobles the other morning and found it more interesting than I expected. I doubt I'll read it but it might interest you. In some ways it's a call for a centrist Rep Party and harking back to heritage Dean thinks is actually available. Not my cup of tea. But might interest you.