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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TimF who wrote (12016)	7/31/2006 11:48:28 PM
From: steve kammerer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 22250

"I don't exactly hold the UN in high regard. Some of the observers have helped Hezbollah attack Israel in the past. The UN as a whole is very anti-Israel. That doesn't mean that one can assume that what it says is wrong and I make no such assumption. However I find any argument from authority with a UN report (or in this case a claim about a UN report not the report itself) as the authority, to be a very weak argument." Tom, Specifically when have UN observers purposely helped Hezbollah attack Israel in the past? Also, as far as the UN being anti Israel, you may wish to learn that shortly after the birth of Israel, during their fighting, Israel assassinated Count Bernadotte, sent by the UN to arrange a cease fire. He was NOT collateral damage. It was a planned action to prevent a ce3ase fire so Israel could continue getting more land. The participants in the attack have written of their exploits so trying to say that it was an accident won't hold water. That may be one reason why some people may think the UN isn't that fond of Israel. Another reason may be that if anyone anywhere says what Israel is doing is wrong they are branded anti-Israel. Funny, The ENTIRE world except for the US is classified as such. Britain in only going along with us because we twist their arms.

To: TimF who wrote (12016)	8/2/2006 2:39:54 AM
From: Proud Deplorable	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

"The UN as a whole is very anti-Israel" This means that Israel is a bad world citizen. Think man think. "Hezbollah initiated the attacks this time." Baloney. But I can sincerely say I hope Iran and Syria give Israel a knockout punch first although I doubt this is possible. But might rarely ever makes right. Israel might gain some territory but lose in the eyes of the world. guardian.co.uk

To: TimF who wrote (12016)	8/2/2006 4:58:47 PM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 22250

In addition to documentary record proving you flat wrong, it's also interesting that Israel cited two incidents as its reason for invading Lebanon in 1982: 1. Assassination of someone in London by an enemy of the PLO 2. Israeli tank blown up by land mine while in Lebanese territory These pretexts made Israel look like a bunch of clowns because they were so preposterous. Had there been any actual incidents of PLO cross-border terrorism, Israel would have cited them. But once again whatever happened in the 80s in Lebanon, Hezbollah initiated the attacks this time. No, Israel initiated the attacks when they planted a car bomb in Sidon and when they flew in Lebanese air space with armed fighter jets. Hezbollah's response was measured and smart. 1. They flew a drone into Israel to find military targets 2. They captured some Israeli soldiers 3. They publicly stated they didn't want war, just prisoner exchange 4. Israel bombed civilians and military targets in Lebanon 5. Hezbollah fired rockets at military and civilian targets in Israel Tom