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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: American Spirit who wrote (66587)7/31/2006 8:54:42 PM
From: atm_prophet  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 93284
 
you lost the election ... deal with it!
And justice for all!!!!! :)



To: American Spirit who wrote (66587)8/1/2006 6:00:37 AM
From: tonto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
Did Kerry Volunteer For Vietnam Only AFTER His Draft Deferment Was Turned Down?
posted 08/27, by mmglist (viewed 1704 times) | Scope : National
Popularity : 5 (8 encourage, 3 discourage)
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That Senator Kerry has presented his Vietnam record as his major qualification to be president of the United States is obvious to any ETPer that has followed the Presidential candidate.

Another issue of contention with Senator Kerry's Vietnam record, in addition to the issue of Kerry's medals and valor, is that Senator Kerry volunteered to go to Vietnam only after the draft deferment Kerry had applied for was turned down.

"Before we get to his record in Vietnam, however, we should examine the widespread misconception about how he got to Vietnam. The oft-repeated claim that Mr. Kerry volunteered to go to Vietnam misleads: He apparently volunteered only after the draft deferment he had applied for was turned down — thus allowing him to choose service in the Navy to avoid being drafted into the Army.

I served as a combat surgeon in DaNang, (U.S. Naval Support Hospital) from Dec. 10, 1967, through Dec. 11, 1968.

During my year in DaNang, a few combatants urged me to verify small abrasions as "wounds" so they could get a Purple Heart. I refused them. But some went shopping for another opinion. Unfortunately, we had some antiwar physicians in Vietnam who were happy to become accomplices in these frauds. Most with valid Purple Hearts didn't need to apply to leave Vietnam: The seriousness of their wounds demanded it.

Lt. John Kerry's collecting three Purple Hearts within 100 days — all for wounds too minor to require hospitalization — recalls the distasteful memories of having to deal with those few miscreants in DaNang. More disturbing is the revelation that crewmen on Mr. Kerry's boat denied they had received any gunfire from shore at the time when Lt. Kerry claimed such gunfire had caused his wound. The doctor who disapproved Lt. Kerry's application for his first Purple Heart for that wound agreed that the tiny metal splinter sticking in the skin of his arm was inconsistent with enemy gunfire from shore. His crewmates claimed that Lt. Kerry, himself, had fired a grenade launcher from the boat striking a rock on the nearby shore — and his wound was from a metal splinter from the grenade that ricocheted back, striking him in the arm.

Is there any way we can determine who was telling the truth about this first Purple Heart? Yes, there is. The type of wound can reveal much about the weapon that caused it. The tiny sliver of metal and its very superficial penetration is typical of fragments from explosive devices — like grenades. It would not have resulted from the most likely gunfire from shore — small arms rifle fire. The AK 47 rifle, used by the enemy, fires a 30-caliber bullet, which is 50 times or more as heavy as the sliver of metal sticking in Lt. Kerry's skin. Such a bullet would have passed through any part of his body it struck, and certainly no part of it would have remained sticking in his skin.

In the absence of the medical records that Mr. Kerry apparently declines to make public, the only details we have about his second and third Purple Hearts are that he also based them on wounds too minor to require hospitalization.

Dr. Louis Letson was entirely correct in turning down Lt. Kerry's first Purple Heart — even if the wound had been the result of enemy action. Can there be any doubt that the tiny metal sliver could have been removed easily, and safely, by a Navy corpsman? It certainly did not "require" treatment by a medical officer (an MD).

So where and how did Lt. Kerry eventually obtain a Purple Heart for his first wound? Nobody seems to know. Only his medical records will tell — and the American public needs that information to evaluate candidate Kerry's qualifications and candor."

Source and for more:
washtimes.com.
'Trying to acquire Purple Hearts'
Dr. Martin L. Fackler
"The truth is always the strongest argument." Sophocles



To: American Spirit who wrote (66587)8/1/2006 8:49:48 AM
From: Fiscally Conservative  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
Well said eom



To: American Spirit who wrote (66587)8/1/2006 1:35:21 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 93284
 
lol

Yeah...that's why the top leadership of Al Quaeda is dead, in custody or in hiding in a cave somewhere....

If you were twice as smart, you'd still be stupid.