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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (194217)8/1/2006 12:36:45 AM
From: neolib  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
And please point out that nearly 1 million Jews were forcibly thrown of various Arab countries and had no other place to go except Israel....

Well aware, and I have commented on the fact that these were displaced from Arab lands as a result of the impending creation of the state of Israel. My point exactly: Arabs and Jews used to coexist better, the creation of Israel badly damaged Jewish/Arab relations. Why?

But Iraq is probably a good example, where Kurds were forcibly evicted from areas they have inhabited for centuries, and encouraged Arabs to move in. All for the purpose of increasing the Arab "authority over the Kirkuk oil fields.

Sorry, I was looking for one that worked out peaceable for both sides. You might note the Kurds are now getting their land back thanks to the USA, despite the imported Arabs having held sway for a few decades. This would be more like the US helping the Pals with "right of return".

Coptic/Tibet, etc. Again, by force and not liked by the underdogs. Tibet I would guess will eventually get free of China. Copts will always be a minority in Egypt, hence Egypt is Arab/Muslim.

(with a bit of "gerrymandering" near Jerusalem due to Israeli settlements).

Well, that is somewhat understated. I note that for some odd reason, the right hand map states only it is what Clinton offered and Arafat refused, so they don't actually stick their neck out and claim it was what Israel offered. May or may not be anything in that observation.

I do agree, that Pals would most likely find Israel a much more willing partner, if Pals had a few years of good behavior under their belts. It might be useful if the USA could in someway provide assurances to the Pals that we would apply more pressure on Israel to resolve the final issues, if Pals have done things right for awhile. I really think the USA lacks the stature of a fair player in the eyes of the Arabs, hence, many things are non-starters. BWDIK!