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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (298140)8/3/2006 12:14:05 PM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574012
 
>Hence we go back to the fundamental question. Do you believe that the state of Israel should be allowed to exist?

I think that they should be allowed to exist, since there are 5 million people there now. If you'd asked me in 1948, I'd have said absolutely not. However, I do not think that Israel deserves any benefit of the doubt when it comes to determining its own borders.

>If not (as Ted would argue), how would you reconcile the twin notions that (a) you'd be dismantling a successful democracy in the Middle East

Don't kid yourself. As long as they occupy the West Bank and Gaza and don't give the inhabitants the right to vote, they're not a democracy.

>and (b) you'd be giving the terrorists the biggest victory they could ever hope for?

I'm not saying that dismantling Israel is the right thing to do, but if it were the right thing to do, I wouldn't give a crap whom it pleased.

-Z



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (298140)8/3/2006 1:08:50 PM
From: TigerPaw  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1574012
 
I like the idea of giving the Israeli's Utah.
It would cost less than the wars cost, and there could finally be peace.

TP



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (298140)8/4/2006 2:08:37 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574012
 
Hence we go back to the fundamental question. Do you believe that the state of Israel should be allowed to exist? If not (as Ted would argue), how would you reconcile the twin notions that (a) you'd be dismantling a successful democracy in the Middle East, and (b) you'd be giving the terrorists the biggest victory they could ever hope for

You are righting a wrong. You are correcting a mistake. It happens all the time.