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To: Elroy who wrote (194870)	8/4/2006 4:26:04 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

Not really, I'd never heard of him until two weeks ago. But in my reading of the rants of various Arab leaders on the Pal-Israel situation I generally read them attack Zionists, not Jews. I think you are making a mistake by equating the two. . Then excuse me, you weren't following the situation very closely. Hasan Nasrallah has been a major player for the last eight years or so, since he took over leadership of Hezbullah. Second, the post I was answering was specifically talking about Hezbullah and Iran. They do have unambigous genocidal ambitions, and do not try to hide them. Third, it is true that most of the Arab leaders are not overtly genocidal in their intent. They just intend to destroy Israel, and kill or drive off all the Jews except maybe a very few who consent to live in proper subjegation to Muslim rule. There is disagreement on this last point. Hamas, for example, won't accept a single Jew to stay in "liberated" Palestine but says it is willing to let the Jews live just so long as they all move out of Muslim lands. America would be okay. Is this supposed to make me feel better? They graciously don't want to kill me here in America, so that's alright? The Arabs don't consider all nationalist movements illegitimate, just Zionism. Do you agree with them? This is the point where anti-Zionism slides into anti-Semitism. If you say, I hate all nationalist movements, everybody should move freely and live multiculturally according to a few simple rules, then I say fine, that is anti-Zionist but not anti-Semitic. But if you support this or that 'brave nationalist struggle' but shudder in horror at the idea the Jews also should have a nation, that is anti-Semitic. The general test for anti-Semitism is: if the argument boils down to, one rule for everybody else, but for Jews, a completely different rule (always MUCH more stringent), that is just anti-Semitism wrapping itself in protective clothing.