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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (195437)	8/6/2006 11:54:16 PM
From: Katelew	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I said "apparently" and would assume with time more and more damage can be done, but what then??? They regroup, rearm, and reappear at a later time.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (195437)	8/7/2006 2:17:33 AM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

-- Nearly a month after the capture of two Israeli soldiers and the deaths of eight more in a border raid by Hezbollah on July 12, Israel's military response has failed to secure any of the war aims set out that day. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert promised "a new reality" in Lebanon, where the Iranian-backed Hezbollah militant group would be downgraded and its threat to Israel removed. But nearly four weeks on, 2 million Israelis remain under daily Hezbollah rocket bombardment across northern Israel. Hezbollah fighters are putting up stiff resistance against advancing Israeli ground forces. The Shiite militia is gaining political support. And the implementation of U.N. Security Council Resolution 1559, which calls for the deployment of Lebanese government forces up to the international border and the disarming of nongovernment militias, appears as distant as ever. Israeli military planners had envisioned a swift victory without a large ground invasion. That strategy failed, and now about 10,000 Israeli troops are encamped across the border and appear set to stay in southern Lebanon, sparking for many fears of a return to the 18-year Israeli occupation that ended in May 2000..... sfgate.com This is dangerous stuff for Israel as it is for the US in Iraq. You show the world your second biggest cards and the world isn't impressed. With such weak leaders in office, would they resort to showing the biggest cards and setting off conflicts they can't begin to imagine?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (195437)	8/7/2006 8:58:14 AM
From: el_gaviero	Respond to of 281500

Are you kidding me Nadine? Your boys are getting their ass handed to them. With all the advantages they enjoy, they can't occupy villages a few miles inside Lebanon, after having invaded and thrown everything into the battle, killing left and right like mad dogs and bloodthirsty weasels? This is an absolute, total, complete, unmitigated disaster for israel. Back in 1967, the Israelis defeated the armies of three countries in a few days. Now, they can't subdue one freeking village a mile from the border. The key here, Nadine, baby, is that the Arabs are standing their ground. They never lacked for courage, I don't think, but they did lack organization and discipline. Now they have it, and the Israeli army looks spoiled, inept, cowardly, a bully totally dependent on Big Brother in Washington, a military effort now on the verge of demoralization, with the sound of vicious little back-biting comments beginning to be heard, as the air force blames the army and the army blames the politcos, and the politicos blame ..... who???...... ah yes .... the 7 year old anti-Semites in the basement of that building in Kana. The waves from this disaster are spreading like a tsunami through the political bodies of the world. The Arabs are fired up and gaining esprit de corps, while Israel and her only ally,our pathetic, isolated, traitor-politicians and neocon parasites are with each passing second becoming more discredited. Look at Joe Lieberman if you want to know which way the wind is blowing......

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (195437)	8/7/2006 9:04:38 AM
From: sylvester80	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Considering that you trumpet the 7 day war all the time, here you are after 4 weeks and the Israeli military casualties are a factor higher than the Hezbollah ones with absolutely none of your objectives won as missiles continue to rain down on Israeli IDF. The other thing that IDF should also not be proud off is the murder and butchering of 1000 civilians most of them children and the complete destruction of Lebanon. So considering that Israel has MORE military casualties and once this is over will have BILLIONS to pay for war reparations for the massive destruction and loss of civilian life, not to mention the negative world opinion toward Israel, it is very clear that the Israelis are a bunch of losers in this war.