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To: GST who wrote (195821)8/7/2006 6:29:00 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I never claimed the UN was subservient to the US, but your arguments imply that you consider the reverse. I didn't say the UN had to agree with what the US wants, but apparently you think the US has to follow what the UN says is the correct move.

As for the "international law" angle, the US didn't violate any international agreements when it invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. The government of the former, was tied in to and throughly connected with a group that had been attacking the US for years, and finally got a massive counterattack after 9/11. The later was after frequent violations of a ceasefire agreement, that was initiated after Iraq had started a war.

Also, for those so concerned with UN resolutions, resolutiuon 678 authorized use of "all necessary means" and 1441 refers to 678 and also stated that that Iraq was in material breach of the ceasefire terms presented under the terms of Resolution 687, and that the ceasefire granted under Resolution 687 was binding only insofar as Iraq was willing to hew to the terms of that ceasefire. It also called for "serious consequences" if Iraq didn't comply.



To: GST who wrote (195821)8/8/2006 2:04:51 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Might makes right is the order the US has tried to usher in to world affairs.

This has been the order of world affairs since long before the US came into existence. You know all the slaves that built Rome? They didn't volunteer for the job....