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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (195981)8/8/2006 2:44:31 AM
From: Elroy  Respond to of 281500
 
You expect Israel to do something without reciprocity from the Arabs..

I'm recommending the Israelis do something which will make their lives better and generate a lasting peace with their neighbors. The right of return demand/request by the Palestinians is essentially the same as integrating the Pals into the current country, and absording Gaza and the West Bank territories. Arabs would accept it, of course the process would have to occur over decades, mainly to let current crop of violent fanatics die off....

You can't expect Israel to invite more Muslim immigrants to live there when Arabs country almost completely forbid a Jew from becoming a citizen of their countries.

Israel can act independently, it is not a tit for tat requirement. Of course, it would be wise for Israel to announce its new immigration policy very publicly and request a tit for tat response from its neighbors.

Until the Palestinians show themselves ready to accept and tolerate the existence of Israel, and enter into a full-fledge peace agreement, as well as the Palestinian government taking the necessary steps to control their militant factions, why should Israel be willing to deal with them?

The Arab citizens of Israel have already shown the above acceptance and toleration, so there you have your demand met. Those excluded have not show it (as a group). Thus my view that integrating more and more of the excluded group into Israel would make Israel more acceptable to its neighbor countries, and make the violent fanatics more and more marginalized. If Palestinians had two paths, one which leads to development and prosperity and Israeli citizenship, the other which leads to a suicide vest strapped to your back and detonating in a cafe, methinks most of them are going to pursue path #1....

Do you think they are going to make a deal when the Palestinians continue to call for their extermination?


The Pals that call for Israeli extermination would obviously be the ones not granted citizenship. Also, the name of Israel should be changed (since the name Israel is clearly Jewish in nature) since the country is multi-ethnic and for all, not just for the Jews. The fanatics that call for Jewish extermination could be rounded up and shot (make hate speech a capital offense), or imprisoned for 20 years or something. But the call for an end to Israel is much different than the call for an end to Jews.

The "end Israel" argument has some political justification to the non-Jews. The "exterminate Jews" argument has no justification to any civilized group of humans, and any individual that calls for that should be punished appropriately. At the very least, they wouldn't get citizenship (and all the corresponding benefits) in the renamed Israel.