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To: GST who wrote (196652)	8/10/2006 5:35:12 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Huh? We pay the bills, we send the bombs, and you want to say "ya, but their war crimes are not so bad". Wrong. They are bad and we should not foot the bill and provide political support so long as war crimes are being committed. Do you see anyone complaining to Hizbullah, Syria, or Iran, about the way the rockets filled with Ball Bearings are being used against populated civilian centers in Israel? I certainly don't see you making any complaints to, or about, THEM. Hawk

To: GST who wrote (196652)	8/10/2006 5:35:52 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 281500

Hey, we sent Stalin massive amounts of arms to use against the Nazis. I know, you think that was a mistake - we should have let the Nazis win instead. And Israel is a saintly country next to the USSR.

To: GST who wrote (196652)	8/10/2006 6:07:30 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

No armed force except perhaps some tiny ones that have never been at war, or perhaps a brand new armed force, is free of war crimes. To say we won't support anyone with any history of war crimes means we won't support anyone else. We can't fund UN peacekeeping forces. They have abused children and collaborated with terrorists. Also we can't fund our own military because we aren't perfect either. Send a huge amount of soldiers to war and some of them will act very badly, even if they risk prosecution and punishment. Soldiers aren't saints any more than people in general are saints. In this conflict you have two sides. One (Israel) which at worst has an ordinary record of occasional war crimes, and which arguably has a much better than ordinary record for a country that has frequently been at war; and one (Hezbollah) who's standard method of operation is war crimes and terrorism. Hiding behind human shields to launch your attacks is a war crime. If the civilians that Hezbollah is hiding behind are killed the crime involved is Hezbollah's not Israels.