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To: James Calladine who wrote (76386)	8/11/2006 12:36:35 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 362750

"Maybe what you are talking about is the harbinger of the breakdown of the large Nation-States into smaller and smaller functioning units until we get to truly COOPERATIVE COMMUNITIES" Lots of the peak oilers think that is the only way. Relocalization, forced upon us by a fuel/transportation crunch. The 3000 mile salad will be no more. No more Brazilian oranges out of season. And no mocha if I'm not gone right now.

To: James Calladine who wrote (76386)	8/11/2006 1:25:51 PM
From: ThirdEye	Respond to of 362750

I actually think that the economic and especially the environmental realities that seem to be coming will be the very impetus to the creation of smaller, local economies that will resist or at least circumvent the increasing centralization of authority that has been the trend for the past 6 years. As corporate influence has risen, and as they mount legal challenges to state and local efforts to regulate their conduct in terms of public health and safety, and as the federal govt gives them greater rein to centralize and control vast interstate and international operations, simple economics is gradually( 10-20 years) going to force communities to reform and work more cooperatively in terms of energy, health, etc.--going "off the grid" so to speak. I see it as two diametrically opposing forces. It's going to be brutal out there. Move to a small community. Oops. You're already there.