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To: pompsander who wrote (747450)	8/11/2006 5:35:10 PM
From: pompsander	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Israeli PM Accepts Cease - Fire Deal By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Published: August 11, 2006 Filed at 5:10 p.m. ET JERUSALEM (AP) -- Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has accepted an emerging Mideast cease-fire deal and informed the United States of his decision, Israeli officials said Friday. Olmert will recommend that his government approve the deal in its upcoming meeting on Sunday, said Gideon Meir, a senior official in the Israeli Foreign Ministry. Meir said the military offensive would continue for the time being. It was not immediately clear if it would be halted after the U.N. Security Council vote on the cease-fire deal in coming hours, or only after the Israeli Cabinet has endorsed it. nytimes.com

To: pompsander who wrote (747450)	8/11/2006 5:58:34 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Respond to of 769670

"There is a lot of room between those concepts and one could believe the first without believing the second." Really? Not sure that I see it, from the point-of-view of the science. For example: evolution of bacteria (easy test subject, since life spans are so short) can easily be observed in the lab. Given a little longer time frame, speciation can be observed in sub-populations of animals, plants, etc., on islands... or anywhere else where populations might be squeezed through a demographic narrowing.... "Didn't Pope John Paul II fall into that catagory - seeing evolution as one of the tools used by an almighty God?" Believe he did. The scientist Richard Dawkins is also famous (though not at all anywhere near the first person to come up with the idea) for being a proponent of the idea that God may have taken a somewhat 'hands off' approach to his Creation after creating the Universe.... That, after creating the Universe (only one of many possible...), and establishing the physical rules (the physical constants that would prevail, the speed of light, strong and weak nuclear forces, etc., etc.) he left a measure of Free Will for his creation. Dawkins expressed this idea in his book The Great Watchmaker (i.e., God built the 'watch' --- our Universe --- and started it 'ticking', but probably doesn't 'intervene' in every little detail or event thereafter....) If God did intervene in every little thing, then there would be no free will, and everything would be predetermined. (Which, I'm pretty sure, the Catholic Church does not maintain anymore.)