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To: el_gaviero who wrote (196944)	8/11/2006 10:57:08 PM
From: bentway	Respond to of 281500

"We have no essential conflict with Arabia and with Muslim countries in general. If we were to pursue our interest rather than Israel’s, our problems with Islam would fade. All we want from the Middle East is oil, which we can get via the market," Exactly. Disproportionately supporting Israel is AGAINST the national interest of the United States. It's as dumb as our support of Chiang kai Shek in China for 50 years.

To: el_gaviero who wrote (196944)	8/11/2006 11:22:04 PM
From: samtrader	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 281500

"We have no essential conflict with Arabia and with Muslim countries in general. If we were to pursue our interest rather than Israel’s, our problems with Islam would fade Your naivete is just stunning, and in this day and age quite dangerous. You don't get it. The fanatic Muslim fascists have a problem with the very idea of us, and of every free-market liberal democracy in the world. They want the Caliphate back, and no amount of negotiation will stand in the way of that plan. And moderate Muslims are just too afraid of these thugs. Its Islam that has a problem with the rest of the world, and until the rest of the world completely gets this, we are sitting ducks. This is much bigger than Israel, but your obvious blind hatred towards them will cloud your judgment no matter what. Look beyond Israel at what is happening in the rest of the world. Israel's loss is the rest of the world's loss, and no amount of silly metaphors will change that <G>