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To: LindyBill who wrote (176458)8/13/2006 7:19:39 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793552
 
Why all the name-calling?

I'm not name-calling, at least I didn't intend it as name-calling. I'm just using labels as shorthand for a variety of recognized perspectives. Re "warmongers," you used that label, yourself, just a few posts upstream. Sure, Carranza didn't say "negotiation fixated" but rather "anyone else who fails to now comprehend that there is no negotiation possible with Muslim fascists." I could have replied by spelling out all those perspectives that I find fault with nicey nice as he did rather than referring to them by labels, but that would have made for a really long and cluttered post.

Sorry if I offended. Just trying to be efficient.

You think that we can't negotiate with Muslims fanatics, but you don't like the style of the ones on the right who agree with you?

First of all I didn't have style in mind but rather shortcomings similar to the failure to recognize that negotiation is not an option. I don't think that's about style. It's pretty serious substance.

Secondly, you have an invalid either-or there, once again. Just because I agree with the recognition of one side that negotiation is not a viable option doesn't mean that I'm in sync with them on all their alternatives to it. I apply the same critical judgment to all the approaches.

For the record, I find the notion that you can negotiate with these fanatics and the notion that a one percent chance of WMD is an automatic go to be in the same general class--badly mistaken. There are some very iffy notions on both sides, IMO, including all those that I clumsily labeled.