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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (176520)	8/14/2006 11:38:22 AM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793537

One thing didn't have anything to do with the other. The English produced a kinder and gentler society. Many people were unemployed and they lived fairly well on the dole. There is no use discussing economics with you, Mary.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (176520)	8/14/2006 12:23:37 PM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793537

I would rephrase that thought, Mary: The reason many were unemployed was because the English economy was not competitive. Many people were unemployed and they lived fairly well on the dole, which deprived them of the necessity of working. When employed, they produced inferior goods because a management problem existed, owing to the class structure that permitted managers to play cricket and have tea instead of doing their job.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (176520)	8/14/2006 4:03:09 PM
From: the_wheel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793537

Mary, Here is another example where I got a kick out of the post, but I think others failed to notice the nuance. You state: <The English produced a kinder and gentler society. Many people were unemployed and they lived fairly well on the dole.> I think this is so obvious you are referring to Pres. George H.W. Bush as he popularized the "kinder gentler" phrase and refer to Dole as well. I well remember Vice-President Dole's wry sense of humor and he also failed to get the kudos he rightly deserved for many of his jokes. "lived fairly well on the dole" - I almost sprayed the screen on this line, I immediately thought "Gee, I wish I was on the dole", especially if they raised the stipend to six figures <g>. I also liked the line about "cricket and tea" as if anyone is going to get upset over such innocuous activities, this also reminds of GHWB, when the thought of "silver spoons" is raised with the "tea" and English smarter comments, also with how Clinton was able to hit Bush with the supermarket scanner and the "Its the economy stupid" implications. There is just so much in your posts. I think others are failing to notice the ironic juxtapositions. "English Smarter" - "Economy Stupid" "Kinder Gentler" - "Dole" etc. PS "Even economists can not fully explain things." Classic understatement. Much nicer than calling them blooming idiots. This post is so full of irony and hyperbole, etc. I can see why you do not feel a need to put a <G> on it. It should be obvious to all.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (176520)	8/14/2006 9:58:43 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 793537

why on earth are you wasting time on this thread. Last I was here, this thread was trying to convince themselves that GEORGE W BUSH was the best president the USA had ever had. The humorous bit about all the wingers that hang out here is they think they are moderates or somehow mature posters able to see both sides all the while they spew backhanded compliments at anybody that disagrees with them. I'm sure Bush will go down in history as the worst president ever, and this thread will go into a whining sulk for years. THere are a bunch of geezers on this thread anyway. Totally unaware of economics of the day. Sheesh!

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (176520)	8/23/2006 11:19:24 AM
From: TimF	Respond to of 793537

The reason many were unemployed was because the English economy was not competitive. I think all the talk about grinding poverty is an exaggeration, but they where poorer than they otherwise would have been. Unemployment was indeed higher because the economy was not very competitive. The largest reason why it was not very competitive was because of all the socialism. Socialism wasn't the only problem with the British economy between WWII and Thatcher, but it was the biggest one.