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To: Katelew who wrote (197691)8/16/2006 4:24:09 PM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"Why else is this country so one-sided when it comes to Israel?"

Your america excludes the red states, remember. It also as we find out from folks like syl, excludes Jews who have a natural affinity for israel.
Israel for better or worse is Red state nation. Most americans dont want to take any shit from terrorists and either do the israelis. Blue state americans may be correct on some aspects of policy--Iraq is a mess but for reasons far different than the dem left would have us believe. The euros on the otoh are like the chinese and russians, who play with the future of the world by cozying up to terror supporting regimes such as iran. Americans just dont go for that crap as it smacks of appeasement. Somewhere between preemptive and appeasement, and between standing up to terror and diplomacy lies a middle ground that we should seek. But thats impossible today because of folks like rove and cheney, and pelosi and and dean. Where are folks like colin powell and george mitchell?



To: Katelew who wrote (197691)8/16/2006 6:11:17 PM
From: geode00  Respond to of 281500
 
The Israeli lobby is one thing but the Christocrat Armageddonist types are much more important. There are more of them and they use their churches to bring out votes, raise money and man grassroots organizations for rightwing candidates.

As long as these nuts believe that Israel holds the key to the second coming, Israel can take full advantage of their support.

It's sad but true, the US has turned into a bizarre theocracy using a religion made up for consumption through talk radio and cable TV. It's the merging of the worst parts of consumerism, capitalism, authoritarianism, militarism and religion.



To: Katelew who wrote (197691)1/23/2007 12:49:15 PM
From: GST  Respond to of 281500
 
Excellent questions. Israel needs the US to stop pretending that there is no solution other than using force to resolve the crisis in the mideast -- and it is a crisis. Our policy has allowed diplomacy to die and our credibility died along with it. Now we have shown that we can't win with force, and we are left with no options but to try more of the same -- it is tragic.