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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (197735)	8/17/2006 2:49:34 PM
From: Noel de Leon	Respond to of 281500

This what I wrote: "Try to remember that creating arab nations in a muslim dominated area is not as conflict creating(though there are conflicts to satisfy anyone) as creating a zionist state in a muslim dominated area." This is what you wrote: "Just as you ignore the fact that when these countries were created, they either divided entire nations of people between various countries (the Kurds as one major example), or forced smaller ethnic groups to be subjugated to the racist ARAB "republics".." As to the "nation" of Kurdistan: "In the 16th century A.D., the Kurdish inhabited areas were split between Safavid Iran and the Ottoman Empire after long wars. Before World War I, most Kurds lived within the boundaries of the Ottoman Empire in the province of Kurdistan. After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, the Allies created several countries within its former boundaries. Originally, Kurdistan along with Armenia was to be one of them, according to the never-ratified Treaty of Sèvres. However, the reconquest of these areas by Kemal Atatürk and other pressing issues caused the Allies to accept the renegotiated Treaty of Lausanne, giving this territory to Turkey and leaving the Kurds without a self-ruled region. Other Kurdish areas were assigned to the new British and French mandated states of Iraq and Syria under both treaties." So your question should read "How would you like to be a Kurd living in "ARAB", Turkish, Iranian nations?" Placing the Kurdistan problem in the arab quarter is a stretch. "UN 1947: OK, we are guilty, lets steal some land from the arabs instead of accepting the Jews. No.. what you're REALLY saying is that Arabs have some kind of "RIGHT" to the land and the people's that inhabit it." Of course they do, they lived on the land. "The Arabs governments in the region are just as guilty of advancing the cause of "Arabism" as the Israelis are of advancing "Zionism"." True but that is not a justification for doing so. "And Palestine is NOT Arabia. Arabia is Arabia. Arabs living outside of Arabia are the descendants of conquerors and THEY ARE THE FOREIGNERS." A red herring. I said muslim dominated area, not arab. "... "ability" to accept a small little piddly state known as Israel living in their midst." That is a pipe dream. What kind of funny tobacco do you smoke? Small little piddly? get real. Israel is the dominate military and economic power in the area. Although I admit that they are doing their best to ruin that.