To: Ichy Smith who wrote (197932 ) 8/18/2006 6:05:28 PM From: Bilow Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500 Hi Ichy Smith; Re: "I don't see another choice, either Israel is willing to accept as many casualties as it takes, or they have to leave. Do you see another option that I don't, They may be bloodied by this adventure into lebanon, but the adventure simply proves that the war should not have been so picky. Fighting HIzbollah isn't possible, destroying Lebanon is. " Israel can agree to cease existence as a state. That's what South Africa did. States disappear all the time but their people live on. The USSR, Ottoman empire are examples, but an example more the size of Israel would be Hong Kong. The population of Hong Kong is about the same size as the population of Israel. Neither state has sufficient territory that it can be reasonably defended. Both are stuck in the middle of much larger ethnic groups. And in both cases there are apparently irreconcilable differences between the runt state and the larger population. In Hong Kong it was capitalism, and in Israel it is religion (more or less). The British realized this about Hong Kong and signed it over to China. The reason something similar hasn't happened with Israel is because the Arabs are divided into states so small that they are militarily weak. But the failure of Israel to pacify even the Palestinians bodes badly for the future of Israel. Eventually they go the way of Hong Kong. Re: "But I think the immediate war should be with Palestine, total no nonsense, kill as many palestinians as possible war. It will reduce overcrowding and perhaps settle things in palestine for a time. " You're basically a sicko. Militarily, the problem with that sort of strategy is that it ignores two facts. The first is that running a total war would make Israel that much less attractive and cause population flight from the country, and the second is that Israel can't beat up on the Palestinians without eventually involving the rest of the Arab states any more than the Germans could (twice) beat up on England without eventually involving the rest of the English speaking world. People who speak a common language stick together even more than people who share a common religion. -- Carl