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To: epicure who wrote (1070)	8/20/2006 6:20:31 PM
From: J. C. Dithers	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1695

You dismiss the importance of "because it's always been that way." Let me give you this: I'm tired of our country being called "America." It is annoyingly boring and nondescriptive. I'd like to change it to "Freedomland." A lot of my friends agree. Can you you give me one good reason why we shouldn't do this? Could you give one good reason?

To: epicure who wrote (1070)	8/21/2006 12:29:01 PM
From: Bread Upon The Water	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1695

If you look as marriage as a legal institution it has been regulated by the state in Western Society for 700-800 years (mainly to ensure the passing down of property--initially real estate), so it has a vast legal history related to order. Gay marriage is something entirely outside of that legal framework and society will not instantly change this history. The institution of marriage in the US underwent its most significant change (the rate of divorce)in the US in the ln the last 45 years coinciding with the economic liberation of women. As a percentage of the US population, a much larger percentage of Woman now can choose to whether to get or stay married as opposed to having to get married to play a role in society. This has had its effects on divorce rates. While it is economically possible to dispense with a bread winning man, we haven't adjusted to the culture ramifications of this in terms of a stability factor. The cultural stigma against divorce is gone, but this has opened up a pandora's box of a host of other problems. I'm not advocating going back--it is just that it is making Western Society more unstable. We have set aside one social structure and haven't replaced it yet. We are in flux and the fracturing is showing up along all the indices that measure children's progress.