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To: geode00 who wrote (198383)	8/21/2006 3:02:09 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Impeachment shouldn't be used because someone disagrees politically with someone else. Got an example...I've never seen this occur.... Lying about a war, ignoring FISA....these are serious, serious crimes. I have not heard any "lies" concerning the Iraq war.... And the USSC will be considering the NSA wiretap program to determine if the President overstepped his bounds....even then, if the decision goes against the program, given the arguments the WH has posited, it will not be a "crime".... J.

To: geode00 who wrote (198383)	8/21/2006 3:49:56 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Saddam lost a war in case you didn't notice. The grounds that you give for impeachment of Bush are more political disagreement than serious crimes. The constitution doesn't say "the president is above the law", nor does Bush's argument about his powers rest on the idea that the president is above the law. As for Hezbollah, well in theory its subject to the government of Lebanon. Is Lebanon a signatory of the Geneva conventions? I'm not sure. Even if it isn't war crimes violate international norms. Terrorist organizations may not be signatories to international treaties, but there actions still can have consequences to them, ranging from trial under ordinary laws against murder, kidnapping etc., to open warfare against the terrorist organization. Also there is ample precedent to consider terrorist, like pirates, "Hostis humani generis" or enemies of mankind, subject to universal jurisdiction. en.wikipedia.org legalaffairs.org