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To: Ichy Smith who wrote (198549)	8/22/2006 1:30:39 PM
From: Sdgla	Respond to of 281500

Damn........... a sign of reason.

To: Ichy Smith who wrote (198549)	8/22/2006 1:47:18 PM
From: Lou Weed	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

<<Hizbollah shows no sign of any concern for casualties that are not Muslim. Thus Israel has the obligation to fight the war on Hizbollahs terms. Had there been 20,000 Shiite deaths in Lebanon, this war might have been won.>> So by you're reasoning the corollary would also be true?? i.e. Israel shows no sign of any concern for casualties that are not Jewish. Thus Hizbolah has the obligation to fight the war on Israels terms. Had there been 20,000 Jewish deaths in Israel, this war might have been won.

To: Ichy Smith who wrote (198549)	8/22/2006 1:51:32 PM
From: geode00	Respond to of 281500

IndyStar.com Opinion Letters to the editor August 21, 2006 Hezbollah's grievance is with Israel, not the West Allon Friedman's critique of a Star article covering the Qana tragedy ("Tragic story presented without full explanation," Aug. 1) reveals a dangerous logic. He conflated the Hezbollah action against Israel to be part of "a life-and-death struggle" involving "the entire free world" in its so-called war on terror. He is misguided. Hezbollah's grievance is with Israel, not the West. I agree with Friedman on the lack of "objective context" in the story. The story could have, among other things, discussed the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon and subsequent 18-year occupation resulting in the deaths of more than 10,000 civilians, including the internationally condemned atrocity at the Sabra/Shatilla refugee camp (this invasion and occupation gave rise to Hezbollah); most saliently, it could have discussed the near daily Israeli violations of the U.N. monitored Lebanese-Israeli border (according to U.N. reports) leading to occasional deaths as when 15-year-old shepherd Yasuf Rahil was killed by unprovoked Israeli cross-border fire in February. His use of the Geneva Conventions to justify the death of innocents is outrageous. The two core principles of the Conventions are distinction (between combatants and non-combatants) and proportionality Israel has flagrantly violated both in its attacks on Lebanon. Furthermore, it is offensive to claim that Hezbollah seeks to "maximize [civilian] casualties" and thereby imply that they have no regard for life. In point of fact, the Lebanese Red Cross and Human Rights Watch observers found no evidence of rocket launchers (and by extension, Hezbollah) in Qana. The recent crisis, as well as the forgotten war on the Palestinians, was not caused by irrational Arab extremism and hatred. Its genesis lies in injustice, suppressed truth and the doctrine of might makes right. Timothy A. King Indianapolis indystar.com ============== That's right, keep trying to misunderstand both sides of the argument. Yep, that works. It's like Dubyette not knowing about Shiites and Sunnis until January of 2003.