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To: geode00 who wrote (198628)	8/22/2006 4:19:40 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

since FISA doesn't hamper them That might be correct but it isn't a safe assumption. and since they declined Congress' suggestion to change FISA. Any change in the legislation to allow certain specific activities would signal that those certain activities are likely. Now if the law doesn't infringe on the powers the constitution gives the president, then it should have to be changed anyway, or the administration should have to accept the current limits, OTOH the administrations claim that the law improperly infringes on the constitutional powers of the president, while certainly very debatable, isn't totally ridiculous either. Your love of secrecy in government dealings is quite stunning. I have no such love of secrecy in government. Sometimes its necessary, but it is never an unalloyed good. You give a full pass to the Bush administration on FISA I give no such full pass. I say they have a reasonable constitutional argument. I didn't even fully endorse that argument, I just say it isn't outrageous or ridiculous, or obviously false. but yet you are pretty darn sure that there would have been no effect on AQ if OBL had been caught or killed quickly No, I'm pretty sure there would have been an effect, but the effect would likely have been moderate, possibly even minor. It wouldn't have broken Al Qaeda.